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re: Clemson @ South Carolina discussion
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:25 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:25 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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I finally had to go with Clemson
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:34 pm to theGarnetWay
Should be same as the past few games. We are more susceptible to giving up the big play this year, but I don't see how Clemson stops our running game.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:35 pm to WheelRoute
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but I don't see how Clemson stops our running game.
Yep. And this is how we've beaten them the last 4 years as you said. They've had Spiller, Boyd, Watkins, etc. But all of them are powerless if we control the clock and punish them with long, methodical, drives.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:35 pm to elposter
Clemson's not Coastal Carolina.
Clemson big. By 14 or more...
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:51 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Sagarin has Clemson's SOS at 57 and USC's at 35. Of course, both just played FCS teams. South Carolina has the best win of the two (@Mizzou).
Scoring Offense:
Clemson- 42.3 ppg
South Carolina- 34.3 ppg
Rushing O:
Clemson- 178 ypg
South Carolina- 211 ypg
Passing O:
Clemson- 338 ypg
South Carolina- 254 ypg
Scoring Defense:
Clemson- 20.2 ppg
South Carolina- 20.3 ppg
Rush D:
Clemson- 154 ypg
South Carolina- 143 ypg
Pass D:
Clemson- 199 ypg
South Carolina- 201 ypg
Turnover Margin:
Clemson- +10
South Carolina- +5
3rd down conversion %:
Clemson- 43%
South Carolina- 43%
Opponent 3rd down conversion %:
Clemson- 29%
South Carolina- 35% :wah:
TOP:
Clemson- 27:48
South Carolina- 31:35
Sacks:
Clemson- 31
South Carolina- 19 :wah:
TFL:
Clemson- 106 (nation's best)
South Carolina- 74 :wah:
Sacks allowed:
Clemson- 27
South Carolina- 20 :nana:
TFL allowed:
Clemson- 79
South Carolina- 52 :nana:
:nana: = Advantage South Carolina
:wah: = Advantage Clemson
:dunno: = PUSH
Intangibles: South Carolina at home riding nation's longest BCS team home winning streak at 18 games, Shaw has never lost a home game.
SOS>>>>>>>>>>>Dabo
Scoring Offense:
Clemson- 42.3 ppg
South Carolina- 34.3 ppg
Rushing O:
Clemson- 178 ypg
South Carolina- 211 ypg
Passing O:
Clemson- 338 ypg
South Carolina- 254 ypg
Scoring Defense:
Clemson- 20.2 ppg
South Carolina- 20.3 ppg
Rush D:
Clemson- 154 ypg
South Carolina- 143 ypg
Pass D:
Clemson- 199 ypg
South Carolina- 201 ypg
Turnover Margin:
Clemson- +10
South Carolina- +5
3rd down conversion %:
Clemson- 43%
South Carolina- 43%
Opponent 3rd down conversion %:
Clemson- 29%
South Carolina- 35% :wah:
TOP:
Clemson- 27:48
South Carolina- 31:35
Sacks:
Clemson- 31
South Carolina- 19 :wah:
TFL:
Clemson- 106 (nation's best)
South Carolina- 74 :wah:
Sacks allowed:
Clemson- 27
South Carolina- 20 :nana:
TFL allowed:
Clemson- 79
South Carolina- 52 :nana:
:nana: = Advantage South Carolina
:wah: = Advantage Clemson
:dunno: = PUSH
Intangibles: South Carolina at home riding nation's longest BCS team home winning streak at 18 games, Shaw has never lost a home game.
SOS>>>>>>>>>>>Dabo
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:52 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:Coastal>>>Mizzou. Now go play at the big12 kiddie table.
Clemson's not Coastal Carolina.
Clemson big. By 14 or more...
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:10 pm to WheelRoute
quote:Big play ability:
We are more susceptible to giving up the big play this year
Clemson- 199 plays of 10+ yards, 63 plays of 20+ yards, 30 plays of 30+ yards, 16 plays of 40+ yards, 7 plays of 50+ yards
South Carolina- 172 plays of 10+ yards, 67 plays of 20+ yards, 29 plays of 30+ yards, 15 plays of 40+ yards, 10 plays of 50+ yards
On Defense:
Clemson- 145 plays of 10+ yards, 49 plays of 20+ yards, 25 plays of 30+ yards, 10 plays of 40+ yards, 10 plays of 50+ yards
South Carolina- 142 plays of 10+ yards, 43 plays of 20+ yards, 18 plays of 30+ yards, 8 plays of 8 yards, 5 plays of 50+ yards
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:22 pm to elposter
This is gonna be a good game.
Hope a meteor hits it.
Ya bunch of jerks.
But seriously gonna be a good game.
Hope a meteor hits it.
Ya bunch of jerks.
But seriously gonna be a good game.
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:27 pm to elposter
South Carolina because frick Clemson.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:59 pm to BreakawayZou83
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because frick Clemson
upvoted
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:01 pm to elposter
We'll beat them.
Homefield in a rivalry game is huge. I'll be there 12 rows behind the taters bench to ensure their focus is distracted.
fsu demolished clemson this year, they are the only ranked team that they've played.
Boyd is scared shitless of Clowney, he railed him 4.5 times in last year's game and Abo said that Brandon Thomas is going to go 1v1 against him.
Spurrier owns Abo, 4 straight.
clemson lost Travis Blanks, their best DB and starting Safety, 3 days ago. They're putting in Kearse, who is a true FR who hasn't played much this year.
SC outsizes clemson's DL by about 3 inches and 50 lbs on average.
All of SC's LB's are faster than Tahj Boyd.
clemson is a pass happy team going up against a team that is built for the pass rush and it's a rivalry, night, ESPN game at Williams Brice. It's going to be loud. clemson is going to get pounded.
Homefield in a rivalry game is huge. I'll be there 12 rows behind the taters bench to ensure their focus is distracted.
fsu demolished clemson this year, they are the only ranked team that they've played.
Boyd is scared shitless of Clowney, he railed him 4.5 times in last year's game and Abo said that Brandon Thomas is going to go 1v1 against him.
Spurrier owns Abo, 4 straight.
clemson lost Travis Blanks, their best DB and starting Safety, 3 days ago. They're putting in Kearse, who is a true FR who hasn't played much this year.
SC outsizes clemson's DL by about 3 inches and 50 lbs on average.
All of SC's LB's are faster than Tahj Boyd.
clemson is a pass happy team going up against a team that is built for the pass rush and it's a rivalry, night, ESPN game at Williams Brice. It's going to be loud. clemson is going to get pounded.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:01 pm to BreakawayZou83
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South Carolina because frick Clemson.
^ and this
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:01 pm to Old Sarge
South Carolina owns Clemson. Nothing has changed. \
Scar by 17
Scar by 17
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:10 pm to dhuck20
Just let us do what that AU/UGA/LSU seemingly can't and preserve conference integrity by whooping these pretenders.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:39 am to Cockopotamus
Wow that video brought up an interesting train of thought, had we beaten Clemson in '08, Dabo would most likely not be their coach right now. As it stands, we have won every game since then.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:47 am to CockRocket
Good point. He may have gotten the job regardless since he did get them bowl eligible, but the win over us definitely sealed up the job for him
Posted on 11/27/13 at 5:03 am to CockRocket
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Coastal>>>Mizzou. Now go play at the big12 kiddie table.
Clemson's not Florida and their 3rd string waterboy quarterback either.
Clemson gonna frick you up deep. Real deep...
Posted on 11/27/13 at 5:41 am to elposter
Clemson has improved on defense, especially the play of their DL
USC has improved on offense, and their OL is much improved this season
Advantage??
USC's defense has slipped slightly from their performance last season. They have made significant strides forward as the season has progressed. The biggest slip on D has been their run D, which they have allowed around 20 more ypg from 2012. They are allowing about 2 ppg more this season and overall around 30 more ypg...
Clemson hasn't really improved all that much on offense from 2012: they score 1.3 ppg more; they are passing for more yds but are rushing for less, so that they average 516.6 total ypg compared to 512.7 ypg in 2012. Not really all that different is it? But Clemson has a lesser run gm this season than last, so can they capitalize on USC's run D being less?
Biggest difference between 2012 and 2013? Game is in Williams-Brice instead of Memorial Stadium. Clemson boasts of having a great home-field advantage in football. They got routed by FSU earlier this season but that was the only home gm they lost. The previous home game loss? Against USC last season. The previous one before that? Against USC in 2010.
USC will have it's starting QB for this game, and also have Thompson ready to go as well. We'll have our starting RB in Davis, but also will have 3 other RBs ready to go - all 3 have rushed for 100+ yd games in their careers at USC - plus Wildcat option Pharoh Cooper who is averaging 12.5 ypc. Our WRs are deeper than last yr and more productive...
Clemson was VERY intimidated by the home crowd in 2011 when they were last there: Boyd was 11 for 30 for 80+ yds, and CU overall had 183 offensive yds. We beat them 34-17 in 2009 and 34-13 in 2011...
USC has improved on offense, and their OL is much improved this season
Advantage??
USC's defense has slipped slightly from their performance last season. They have made significant strides forward as the season has progressed. The biggest slip on D has been their run D, which they have allowed around 20 more ypg from 2012. They are allowing about 2 ppg more this season and overall around 30 more ypg...
Clemson hasn't really improved all that much on offense from 2012: they score 1.3 ppg more; they are passing for more yds but are rushing for less, so that they average 516.6 total ypg compared to 512.7 ypg in 2012. Not really all that different is it? But Clemson has a lesser run gm this season than last, so can they capitalize on USC's run D being less?
Biggest difference between 2012 and 2013? Game is in Williams-Brice instead of Memorial Stadium. Clemson boasts of having a great home-field advantage in football. They got routed by FSU earlier this season but that was the only home gm they lost. The previous home game loss? Against USC last season. The previous one before that? Against USC in 2010.
USC will have it's starting QB for this game, and also have Thompson ready to go as well. We'll have our starting RB in Davis, but also will have 3 other RBs ready to go - all 3 have rushed for 100+ yd games in their careers at USC - plus Wildcat option Pharoh Cooper who is averaging 12.5 ypc. Our WRs are deeper than last yr and more productive...
Clemson was VERY intimidated by the home crowd in 2011 when they were last there: Boyd was 11 for 30 for 80+ yds, and CU overall had 183 offensive yds. We beat them 34-17 in 2009 and 34-13 in 2011...
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 5:55 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 9:25 am to CockRocket
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Wow that video brought up an interesting train of thought, had we beaten Clemson in '08, Dabo would most likely not be their coach right now. As it stands, we have won every game since then.
Dangbo is the antithesis of Tammy; Tammy kept his job through mediocre seasons by beating us. Dangbo has had success at clempson except for when they've played us.
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