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re: A&M - Bama 2012 and JFF vs. the Zone Defense
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:50 am to madddoggydawg
Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:50 am to madddoggydawg
I think the main problem with man-to-man vs. zone against JFF is not so much the coverage, but him taking off and running against man-to-man when the DB's have their backs turned to him. The long run against MSU is a good example.
LSU did a great job at containing him and also not allowing any big plays, but I'm not sure whether that was because of scheme or superior athletes.
LSU did a great job at containing him and also not allowing any big plays, but I'm not sure whether that was because of scheme or superior athletes.
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:54 am to finestfirst79
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I think the main problem with man-to-man vs. zone against JFF is not so much the coverage, but him taking off and running against man-to-man when the DB's have their backs turned to him. The long run against MSU is a good example.
Bingo. You kind of have to pick your poison with Manziel. There's no magic bullet to beat him.
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LSU did a great job at containing him and also not allowing any big plays, but I'm not sure whether that was because of scheme or superior athletes.
LSU had a great scheme, but their athleticism was what gave JFF more fits. That and the fact that neither Manziel nor the coaches had as much faith in JFF's passing ability until later in the year.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:12 am to finestfirst79
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Our biggest problem against a/m last year was Vinnie S playing in the slot, he was torched all day long.
This is interesting, although honestly I think the kid can play, but it seemed like your problem was you went Man against Evans and Swope and lost no matter who was guarding them. Evans beats one-on-one 2 out of 3 times even with Millner on him.
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I think the main problem with man-to-man vs. zone against JFF is not so much the coverage, but him taking off and running against man-to-man when the DB's have their backs turned to him.
Yes, I forgot to mention Bama's Man also paved the way for a big day for JFF on the ground (92 yds rushing compared to 27 yds against more zone, 3 man fronts of LSU), although they still contained him pretty well once they started blitzing.
quote:Both. LSU couldn't have done it without speed (good luck beating Mingo to the sideline), but we bailed out of our typical 4-3 Man scheme after 2 A&M TDs. Switching to a 3 man front seemed to help against the interior run. I scratch my head when Bama put a LB's hand in the dirt every down, when the zone-blitzes from a true 3 man-front seemed to make JFF hesitate that one extra second.
LSU did a great job at containing him and also not allowing any big plays, but I'm not sure whether that was because of scheme or superior athletes.
My point being, I think Bama contained JFF in spite of their scheme. They were fine blitzing with superior athletes, but the moment they stopped JFF put 2 scores on them to win the game in the 4th. They just didn't make JFF do it the hard way because Man defense allowed big plays basically all game unless they sacked Manziel. He threw for almost 200 yds more than Mettenberger but that was all nullified by 3 INTs (0 INTs vs. Bama). I'm just saying you gotta try the zone until he beats it. If you don't, you're setting JFF up for 2 in-a-row.
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