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re: Sumlin says he was offered an NFL head coaching gig but turned it down
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:07 pm to spacewrangler
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:07 pm to spacewrangler
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LSU was 2nd in the SECW, they won the head to head tie breaker. End of year rank has nothing to do with where you finished in divisional standings(unless there's a 3 way tie)
Link to the SEC's 2nd place tie breaker rules? TIA
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:09 pm to jbond
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What do y'all think?
Eagles offered.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:12 pm to Stonehog
No one asked for input from the SECw last place team, ok.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:13 pm to Farmer1906
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1. Sumlin turned down the Eagles last year. Fact
Nobody gives a shite
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2. LSU and A&M tied in 2nd in the west. There is no actual tiebreaker for 2nd place because it means nothing. A&M however was selected by the better bowl and actual won their bowl game.
nobody gives a shite
so in other words nobody gives a shite about atm or the shite program. one lucky year and you guys think it will continue
if yall go 9-3 this year ill be suprised
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:14 pm to LukeSidewalker
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:14 pm to Bob Ag
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No one asked for input from the SECw last place team, ok.
that would be aubs...
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:15 pm to Bob Ag
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No one asked for input from the SECw last place team, ok.
Auburn?
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:16 pm to Projectpat
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Link to the SEC's 2nd place tie breaker rules? TIA
I have already linked this shite once. Find it yourself lazy bastard
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:16 pm to Maroon Flash
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He has pipelines of Houston and Dallas 4 stars lined up. He will be at A&M for a long time.
Minus Chris Hardeman of course right? And I guess he doesn't really own Mansfield or Beaumont either.
Your obsession with A&M locking down the state is ridiculous considering LSU will likely get a commit by the fall from the #1 overall prospect in the state to go with the #6 and #23 prospects.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:17 pm to Bob Ag
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No one asked for input from the SECw last place team, ok.
Stonehog is a funny name for an Auburn fan.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:19 pm to Maroon Flash
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Texas A&M is a destination job. Located between Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston where 4* recruits are abundant.
Much better stability than any NFL job.
If only it were that simple. Most coaches aren't Bill Snyder. As a general rule they want to give the NFL a shot.
Oregon's as good as any west coast job, yet Kelly took the Philly job.
Nick Saban left LSU and it's fertile recruiting base for Miami. If he'd been at Alabama at that point in his career (and having the success he's having now), he would have still taken the Dolphins job.
Pete Carroll won 2 titles in 9 years but left USC for Seattle.
That's three right off the top of my head that were in ultra stable situations where success on a large scale was pretty much assured.
Sumlin my retire at aTm, but don't be a bit surprised if he has to scratch that NFL itch.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:19 pm to Stonehog
Sorry I completely forgot about Auburn's terrible season and just assumed you guys were last.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:19 pm to Farmer1906
Sumlin will continue to get NFL interest every year because he is black. The NFL has an interview policy that they have to interview minority coaches and he is easily one of the best candidates out there. That isn't to say he doesn't merit the attention regardless of skin color but it does make him more likely to get the call.
He is attractive to NFL teams though because he is highly organized and very good with the media. He also is a strong X's and O's coach who has a strong reputation for hiring quality assistants and developing them. That's what NFL teams want.
That said, I would be surprised if he left. A&M will be able to pay him almost as much as an NFL team, esp if he continues to win. He pulls off a Natty this year and he gets bumped to Miles/Saban type money. You don't spend $450 mill on a new stadium and lose your golden boy coach over a few mill.
More than that though, Sumlin doesn't really fit the profile. He has never played or coached a day in the NFL. He clearly loves working with young men and teaching them and is a highly enthusiastic recruiter. He has small children at home and a college coach has a lot more of a family life than a pro coach. The NFL is a 365 Day job and far more intense. Just ask Steve Spurrier. You also rarely get to be the GM so you are at the mercy of someone else on player decisions.
At A&M he also has the opportunity to not only be treated like a God if he continues to win but maintaining that winning is much easier than at the NFL level. Why? NFL teams are built for parity, College teams allow for advantages in recruiting and facilities. If he builds it then it will be much easier to maintain in College Station than in the NFL with salary caps, free agency, and the draft set up to give the worst teams the highest picks. In college football the rich just get richer.
The only reason I see him leaving is if he just wants to climb that next mountain. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. At A&M though he has a chance to be THE COACH, not just of today but all time. He can be an icon where they build statues of him and name streets after him. That's much more difficult to achieve in the NFL.
He is attractive to NFL teams though because he is highly organized and very good with the media. He also is a strong X's and O's coach who has a strong reputation for hiring quality assistants and developing them. That's what NFL teams want.
That said, I would be surprised if he left. A&M will be able to pay him almost as much as an NFL team, esp if he continues to win. He pulls off a Natty this year and he gets bumped to Miles/Saban type money. You don't spend $450 mill on a new stadium and lose your golden boy coach over a few mill.
More than that though, Sumlin doesn't really fit the profile. He has never played or coached a day in the NFL. He clearly loves working with young men and teaching them and is a highly enthusiastic recruiter. He has small children at home and a college coach has a lot more of a family life than a pro coach. The NFL is a 365 Day job and far more intense. Just ask Steve Spurrier. You also rarely get to be the GM so you are at the mercy of someone else on player decisions.
At A&M he also has the opportunity to not only be treated like a God if he continues to win but maintaining that winning is much easier than at the NFL level. Why? NFL teams are built for parity, College teams allow for advantages in recruiting and facilities. If he builds it then it will be much easier to maintain in College Station than in the NFL with salary caps, free agency, and the draft set up to give the worst teams the highest picks. In college football the rich just get richer.
The only reason I see him leaving is if he just wants to climb that next mountain. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. At A&M though he has a chance to be THE COACH, not just of today but all time. He can be an icon where they build statues of him and name streets after him. That's much more difficult to achieve in the NFL.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:21 pm to Bob Ag
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Sorry I completely forgot about Auburn's terrible season and just assumed you guys were last.
We were 2nd in the West one time but no one remembers :(
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:21 pm to aggressor
nobody is reading that shite post except your jizz jar filling atm buddies.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:21 pm to Bob Ag
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Sorry I completely forgot about Auburn's terrible season and just assumed you guys were last.
that's a good quality you aggies have- forgetfulness- going from the year before to this past season. i hope we can do the same.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:23 pm to Stonehog
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We were 2nd in the West one time but no one remembers :(
I remember big guy.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:25 pm to JustGetItRight
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If only it were that simple. Most coaches aren't Bill Snyder. As a general rule they want to give the NFL a shot.
Oregon's as good as any west coast job, yet Kelly took the Philly job.
Nick Saban left LSU and it's fertile recruiting base for Miami. If he'd been at Alabama at that point in his career (and having the success he's having now), he would have still taken the Dolphins job.
Pete Carroll won 2 titles in 9 years but left USC for Seattle.
That's three right off the top of my head that were in ultra stable situations where success on a large scale was pretty much assured.
Sumlin my retire at aTm, but don't be a bit surprised if he has to scratch that NFL itch.
Great post
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:25 pm to aggressor
I get what you are meaning, but getting a call to interview and having an offer in hand goes way beyond skin color. I think I would stay in college as well. aTm new move to the SEC, facility upgrades, revered by the fans, loved by the players, still making millions. No brainer for me, but I love college FB more than pro's anyway.
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