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re: What do you think the issue is with DGB?
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:12 pm to SoCalMIZ
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:12 pm to SoCalMIZ
Perhaps Dorial's poor interview skills come from being a shy kid. We know he's very humble, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's just uncomfortable with the attention. Doesn't mean he's not smart. I seem to remember that he came in with good grades, and his parents want him to get a good college education.
My opinion is that he's just not yet ready. In HS he didn't have to worry about aggressive guys getting in his face and hitting him like he does now. It takes time to get used to that. The coaches have also said he's thinking about his routes too much, which means it's not instinctive yet. If you watch the plays he's in on, his routes are not crisp. And the fumble play he was in on last week? He had the ball in his hands but wasn't able to wrap it up and keep control of it.
He's learning. I think we'll see flashes of his ability as the year goes along, and he'll be a good receiver next year. And the people who say he'd be starting at their school, or getting involved more....they just don't know what they're talking about. They're ignorant - It's that simple.
My opinion is that he's just not yet ready. In HS he didn't have to worry about aggressive guys getting in his face and hitting him like he does now. It takes time to get used to that. The coaches have also said he's thinking about his routes too much, which means it's not instinctive yet. If you watch the plays he's in on, his routes are not crisp. And the fumble play he was in on last week? He had the ball in his hands but wasn't able to wrap it up and keep control of it.
He's learning. I think we'll see flashes of his ability as the year goes along, and he'll be a good receiver next year. And the people who say he'd be starting at their school, or getting involved more....they just don't know what they're talking about. They're ignorant - It's that simple.
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:17 pm to semotruman
Not to mention there's four or five other receivers on the field most plays he's in including some guys with the confidence and route running ability needed. If what you've said is true, and I'm the QB, he becomes my last resort. Especially if the line isn't giving much time to progress through all my reads.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:18 pm to semotruman
I have noticed in his interviews as having the deer in the headlights look.
By all accounts he does well academically so I wouldn't try to see he's "dumb" or anything like that. I think he's extremely shy almost like Ricky Williams. Maybe that's why his recruitment was so secretive.
By all accounts he does well academically so I wouldn't try to see he's "dumb" or anything like that. I think he's extremely shy almost like Ricky Williams. Maybe that's why his recruitment was so secretive.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:22 pm to SoCalMIZ
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You are basically saying that he is not smart enough to perform and excel on a football field. Did you ever stop and think that the "cluelessness" you speak of might just be a case of being overwhelmed with a new and difficult challenge? It would be completely normal for an 18 year old kid to be lost in front of a camera.
It occurred to me that some kids, even adults, are lost in front of the camera. And he probably is overwhelmed. I just think he has a bit of Colby Rasmus, T Greene in him... that kind of deer in the headlights demeanor. He seems like he is kind of sheltered, he seems a bit yellow, which isn't a bad thing. I don't think it would be as big of an issue if the offense was a machine like in past years, but right now it's really causing his weaknesses to be spotlighted.
And kilo, that stuff about intuition, charisma, ect... Yeah I've gone overboard on that.. We went at it for a day about JF and CB and I definitely went too far with it. But the more these SEC fans have watched us, they're saying what I was saying. JF looks like he has no awareness, charisma, or edge. While CB looks like he has that intangible quality that is needed at Qb.
I'll step back to just readin, you guys have a good thing goin, you don't need me causing problems amongst mizzou fans.
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:24 pm to URHatinIt
Everyone has a moment in their lives when they think to themselves, "oh, crap, I'm not ready for this yet." Maybe that's whats going through his head when he stares at the camera for a second. Like anything else, he will adjust and perform to the level that he is supposed to perform at, both on the field and in front of the camera.
I for one think we should give the kid a break, there's too much other shite that I'm concerned about with this team much less how a freshman is adjusting to his first year at college.
I for one think we should give the kid a break, there's too much other shite that I'm concerned about with this team much less how a freshman is adjusting to his first year at college.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:28 pm to mograyback
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you don't need me causing problems amongst mizzou fans.
It's alright, you're still better than 2012mizzou2012seceast or whatever.
I agree about JF, he's got talent, but seems to be missing that moxie that it takes to really take over and lead. He's had moments, but then seems to want to fade to the background too much. A QB can't do that.
Leaders lead, because they want to lead. You can't force someone to lead who doesn't want to.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:32 pm to SoCalMIZ
Whenever...
A) Franklin's shoulder gets better/regains confidence or
B) Berkstresser becomes the starter
We'll see a jump in his production. You gotta remember that 2 of his games were vs top 5 or 10 defenses and the ASU game all of the plays that were for him were taken out of the playbook with Berk starting.
A) Franklin's shoulder gets better/regains confidence or
B) Berkstresser becomes the starter
We'll see a jump in his production. You gotta remember that 2 of his games were vs top 5 or 10 defenses and the ASU game all of the plays that were for him were taken out of the playbook with Berk starting.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:39 pm to mograyback
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mograyback
You don't need to stay away, differing opinions are welcome! Heck, a lot of us disagree with each other - we just try to do it respectfully.
The Rant is a curious place, and us Mizzou types have taken some crap along our way to finding our niche. Your style just seems a little confrontational sometimes. We need to stick together. Save that attitude for the rest of the ranters, especially the Arky types!
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:41 pm to URHatinIt
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Franklin's shoulder gets better
This is whats caused the crisis of confidence. If he's hurt, sit him and let him heal, open up the QB competition when he's ready. A good competition does wonders for confidence.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:43 pm to FightTigers
I'm not a Yost hater at all, but I don't see how this doesn't fall on the coaches. Even if he isn't picking up the offense quickly and he isn't a genius you can still work him into the offense correctly.
Teach him to run a couple routes and then put him in on a few plays where he will run those routes. He doesn't have to stay in for the entire drive. Just tell him to streak down the field and jump real high, if he catches it great, ir not at least the other team will defend against it.
That being said, he will be fine, maybe in a month, maybe next year, but eventually we will all forget his struggles.
Teach him to run a couple routes and then put him in on a few plays where he will run those routes. He doesn't have to stay in for the entire drive. Just tell him to streak down the field and jump real high, if he catches it great, ir not at least the other team will defend against it.
That being said, he will be fine, maybe in a month, maybe next year, but eventually we will all forget his struggles.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:14 pm to mograyback
You should keep posting man. All the stuff with me is water under the bridge.
We are all on the same side.
We are all on the same side.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:53 pm to PFizzle
He's shown flashes in practice, but it's hard to translate those to the game if your...on..the..sideline. Not every reciever will be open every play. Even the veteran recievers are open all the time, they may think they are but sometimes they can be wrong. If you put DGB out there for say 5 plays a game, that doesn't give him much of a chance to work on getting open. It still comes down to numbers. I think at the beginning of the year they said they would bring him along slowly anyways. Sounds like they're sticking to the plan.
I beleive I seen him open in the endzone last weekend but the ball went about 5 foot over his head. He's tall, but he aint that tall. The throw was late in my opinion. Franklin's timing is in the toilet right now for whatever reason. He plain missed him.
Just for the sake of showing other recruits this is a place where you can come and get on the field quickly, they need to get this kid in the fold however they do it. I remember someone mentioning that other schools would use this agianst Mizzou to get recruits and it makes sense.
I beleive I seen him open in the endzone last weekend but the ball went about 5 foot over his head. He's tall, but he aint that tall. The throw was late in my opinion. Franklin's timing is in the toilet right now for whatever reason. He plain missed him.
Just for the sake of showing other recruits this is a place where you can come and get on the field quickly, they need to get this kid in the fold however they do it. I remember someone mentioning that other schools would use this agianst Mizzou to get recruits and it makes sense.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:51 pm to PFizzle
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Teach him to run a couple routes and then put him in on a few plays where he will run those routes. He doesn't have to stay in for the entire drive. Just tell him to streak down the field and jump real high, if he catches it great, ir not at least the other team will defend against it.
The problem with that is our line isn't giving the receivers enough time to get down field half the time.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:31 pm to reedus23
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The problem with that is our line isn't giving the receivers enough time to get down field half the time.
Exactly.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:17 am to jafo
DGB was out there for 27 of 58 plays vs USCe. I remember at least 3 or 4 times the play appeared to be designed for him. Either the throw was off or he was covered.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 6:28 am to URHatinIt
Really? I didn't see him that much. Of coarse it's hard to recognise who's who in those uni's. I didn't think they had him out there that much. If they did, thats much better. I know in the other games it was a play with him in and then it was to the sideline right after.
I will agree with the lack of time to unload the ball, but there were plays where he had time for sure.
I will agree with the lack of time to unload the ball, but there were plays where he had time for sure.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:33 am to reedus23
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The problem with that is our line isn't giving the receivers enough time to get down field half the time.
I agree with this, but thats not DGB's fault. And coaching can still help with this. If you know your line can't hold for more than 3 seconds, you run designed plays to help with that. Roll the QB out to gain extra time, work in some screen plays(HB Screens) to get the d-line thinking and not just pinning their ears back every play.
Of course sometimes you play top 10 teams and don't look your best against them. Thats all thats happening here. We just aren't a top 10 team yet.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:01 am to mograyback
Damn it, MoGray, quit being such a man pussy. We want you here, just quit flaming us and instead help us flame the Retard Army on the rant.
I liked you better when you had an attitude. Your last post was just pathetic. It almost made me cry because I felt pity for you.
Put on your big boy boots and wade into the shite pool with us when we go to battle against the Mizzou haters on the open forum. Man up and stop this crybaby nonsense.
I liked you better when you had an attitude. Your last post was just pathetic. It almost made me cry because I felt pity for you.
Put on your big boy boots and wade into the shite pool with us when we go to battle against the Mizzou haters on the open forum. Man up and stop this crybaby nonsense.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:06 pm to FightTigers
Yost
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:22 am to HermannMIZ
Franklin is not throwing the ball well. He has always had problems with making good decisions in passing (see 3 picks vs kU last year). But now he seems tentative, weak and not in sync with his receivers. I'm sure a big part of that is the limited time he had to practice with them. DGB will be a big part of this team as the qb problems get worked out.
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