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re: Kiehl Frazier Named Starting QB w/ Quotes & Link

Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by thirdlawson
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:12 pm to
College football's worst kept secret
Posted by StrickAggie06
College Station
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:15 pm to
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twitter cam told the fan base that mocha cam is now the new cam to step in for white cam


Bar Fight Cam > Mocha Cam

Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:22 pm to
From StatTiger

Here are some of the improvements Loeffler made to the Temple offense

:¦Improved their running game from No. 67 in 2010 to No. 7 in 2011.

¦Improved their pass efficiency from No. 65 in 2010 to No. 33 in 2011.

¦Improved their third down percentage from No. 94 in 2010 to No. 20 in 2011.

¦Improved their scoring offense from No. 79 in 2010 to No. 39 in 2011.

¦Improved their red zone offense from No. 82 in 2010 to No. 35 in 2011.

¦Improved their turnover ranking from No. 88 in 2010 to No. 3 in 2011.

¦Improved their time of possession from No. 78 in 2010 to No. 11 in 2011.

¦Improved their tackles for loss allowed from No. 63 in 2010 to No. 26 in 2011.

Most saw the remarkable improvement of the Temple offense in their running game but Loeffler made major strides improving the Owl’s pass-offense despite starting 3 different quarterbacks during the 2011 season.

¦During the 2010 season, the Temple offense averaged a 15-yard gain every 6.1 attempts in their passing game. The Owls improved to 1 every 4.7 pass attempts in 2011. Over the past 25 years only 2 Auburn pass-offenses had a better ratio in plays of at least 15-yards.

¦The Temple pass-offense averaged a pass play of at least 30-yards, every 19.8 attempts in 2010. Leoffler’s pass-offense had a ratio of 1 every 15.2 pass attempts in 2011. Once again, only 2 Auburn pass-offenses had a better ratio for big plays during the past 25 seasons.

¦Perhaps the biggest improvement in the Temple pass-offense came on third down. In 2010, the Owls had a pass efficiency rating of 87.7 on third down, which Loeffler improved to 149.4 in 2011. Only the 2004 and 2010 Auburn offenses had a better pass rating on third down over the past 25 years.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 3:23 pm
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:23 pm to
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You are disregarding a key word in the phrasing of what he said so you could come in here and try to parse words with me. He fricked up. Plain and simple. You came in trying to be a dick and you were wrong too.
I wasn't wrong there chief. I know what a paragraph is meant for. Apparently it's too complex a subject for you to grasp. You're the one trying throw around QBs in their 2nd & 3rd years as a comparison as of why KF, a true FR at the time, is doomed for failure. The only one trying to be a dick in this argument, is you. The other part I especially enjoy, is how the only one you could name within the last 10 years was in his 3rd year in college and his 2nd under the same coaching staff. Great argument.

Moreover, I know the interwebz, and especially this website, is the mecca of correct grammar, but you do realize if you insert two comma's in his post (specifically talking about TFR QBs), your entire rambling tirade looks quite ridiculous, right?
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Asking any QB to become something great his first year, in the SEC, is asking too much.
But hey, you want to quote mine and use comparisons of a guy fresh out of HS to guys 1-3 years removed, go ahead. It really strengthens your stance on the entire subject at hand.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:26 pm to
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memphisplaya


Got any more reliable inside information on Auburn NCAA violations in Louisiana, big guy?
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 3:39 pm to
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I wasn't wrong there chief. I know what a paragraph is meant for. Apparently it's too complex a subject for you to grasp. You're the one trying throw around QBs in their 2nd & 3rd years as a comparison as of why KF, a true FR at the time, is doomed for failure.


I'm doing no such thing. I simply refuted the stupid assertion Rig was making.

On your point, this idea that OMG~! no quarterback in the history of the SEC can do better than a 32.1 qbr in his first year is equally ridiculous. Even true freshman quarterbacks enter the SEC and appear to be able to competently pass the ball.

Braysus:

2010 Tennessee SEC FR QB 125 224 55.8 1849 8.3 7.9 18 10 142.7

Campbell:

2001 Auburn SEC FR QB 89 142 62.7 1117 7.9 7.2 4 4 132.4

Chris Leak:
2003 Florida SEC FR QB 190 320 59.4 2435 7.6 7.1 16 11 132.9

Look, all whom I believe to be true froshes in those seasons not looking completely incompetent. Rig is wrong. You are wrong and being unduly sensitive about it.

I know you apparently think, omg interwebz~!@# I can run my mouth off like a big shot. Settle down, hoss. You came in firing and you're just being a dick about something you continue to be wrong about--namely what the word any means.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Auburntigers06
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:21 pm to
excited to see Kiehl do his thing now that he isn't a true freshman, I am sure he will have more confidence this year
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:38 pm to
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On your point, this idea that OMG~! no quarterback in the history of the SEC can do better than a 32.1 qbr in his first year is equally ridiculous.
Where did I say this there "hoss"?
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Even true freshman quarterbacks enter the SEC and appear to be able to competently pass the ball.
So Frazier was put in the same situations as those guys? Throwing 140+ times on the year? Throwing 220+ times on the year? Throwing 320 times on the year? Given a game of full time with the offense? Given a half of full time with the offense? Given a quarter of full time with the offense? Given even a single series of full time with the offense?

Bray's first 3 games... 16-32 for 144 yds, 0 TDs & 2 INTs.
Jason Campbell red-shirted his first year (2000)... Good research.
Chris Leak threw more passes in his first game against SJSU than Frazier did all season.
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You are wrong and being unduly sensitive about it.
Wrong about what? That you clip out the true FR part and throw in guys in their 2nd & 3rd years on campus to prove a point? Congrats on winning the interwebz awesomeness award!!!
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I know you apparently think, omg interwebz~!@# I can run my mouth off like a big shot
Ah, resorting to the ole being able to read my thoughts thru text on a message board. Cute.
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You came in firing and you're just being a dick about something you continue to be wrong about--namely what the word any means.
Still refuse to read the sentence before it. Keep up the good fight there champ.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:43 pm to
"Down Goes Frazier!" will be heard a lot this year.
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:54 pm to
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Still refuse to read the sentence before it. Keep up the good fight there champ.



You're still wrong on both points. Freshmen can contribute and be asked to do more than throw up a 32.1 qbr. Any means any. Rig's original point is wrong. Your current point is wrong. QED.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:56 pm to
You are doing it wrong
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:12 pm to
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Freshmen can contribute and be asked to do more than throw up a 32.1 qbr. Any means any. Rig's original point is wrong. Your current point is wrong. QED.
lulz

All he said was asking a TFR to do anything great is asking too much. You give out 3 examples over the past 13 years. None of which were great. Looks like you're the one who is completely wrong. Great means great. Not contribute. Not mediocre. Not average. GREAT. None of Leak, Clausen, or Bray were GREAT their TFR years.

Looks like he was right numbnuts.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:13 pm to
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All he said was asking a TFR to do anything great is asking too much. You give out 3 examples over the past 13 years. None of which were great. Looks like you're the one who is completely wrong. Great means great. Not mediocre. Not average. GREAT. None of Leak, Clausen, or Bray were GREAT their TFR years.

Looks like he was right numbnuts.


You are wrong as has been demonstrated.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:14 pm to
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You are wrong as has been demonstrated.

Great means great. Not contribute. Great.

Words have meaning and are precise. You are disregarding a key word in the phrasing of what he said.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 5:17 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:19 pm to
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Great means great. Not contribute. Great.

Words have meaning and are precise. You are disregarding a key word in the phrasing of what he said.



I'll refer you to my last post for all further inquiry.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:20 pm to
therick711 ------>
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 5:21 pm
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:46 pm to
Hog fans cried in their beer when 4 star Kiehl went to Aubarn and we got 3 star Brandon Allen.

How things can change after just one year....Kiehl was OUR most valuable player in the win last year with you guys and the way Allen has looked in practice as a RS freshman, NO ONE in hogville is saying they would want Kiehl over Brandon now.

And people still to this day continue to quote "stars" just amazing.

That said, good luck to Kiehl against everybody but the Hogs
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:52 pm to
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Hog fans cried in their beer when 4 star Kiehl went to Aubarn and we got 3 star Brandon Allen.

How things can change after just one year....Kiehl was OUR most valuable player in the win last year with you guys and the way Allen has looked in practice as a RS freshman, NO ONE in hogville is saying they would want Kiehl over Brandon now.

And people still to this day continue to quote "stars" just amazing.

That said, good luck to Kiehl against everybody but the Hogs


Love the screen name. Big believer in the self-fulfilling prophecy. Hogs dodged bullet one with Kodi Burns as you fellas offered him as well. I believe KF's career will bear out the Hogs dodging a second bullet. I actually think Auburn will be really good this year. I just think KF won't be the signal caller by the end of the year. That being said, I'm fully prepared for him to be the next Mike Vick and make me look bad.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:53 pm to
After Kiehl beats Arky, im sure the tune will change.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 6:03 pm to
I really can't decide who's more obnoxious in their jealousy of Auburn: Arkansas or State fans?

Arkansas fans have taken two decent seasons under Pertino and fooled themselves into thinking they'll be anything better than an also-ran now that he's gone -

Call me when you win an SEC title cause I'm Definently not holding my breath in anticipation of you EVER wining a national chamionship & U can Ban Bet me to the Bank on that one
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