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the LOVE for ACC baseball
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:12 am
seems like there's a lotta love for that conference in baseball this year as evidenced by the regional reps and the national seeding. is this just an SEC backlash? i get the feeling (no proof of course) that the rest of the country is tired of the SEC winning all the damn NC's (like in football, basketball and baseball) and the rest of the country is OK with an impromtu, unspoken conspiracy to trim our horns a little. am i just being a little paranoid or is there an anti SEC movement out there?
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Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:14 am to LSU GrandDad
Most of it is probably based on RPI. Having three of the top eight national seeds doesn't show any anti-SEC bias. The regional hosts, well, I'm not sure of all the components that go into that - RPI, SOS, home ballpark (and bid process), etc.
The #2 seeds will fare well in this tournament.
The #2 seeds will fare well in this tournament.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:15 am to LSU GrandDad
I anticipate a lot of mad considering UGA's big bruh just won the championship.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:15 am to LSU GrandDad
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is there an anti SEC movement out there?
That would explain that 25% of the teams in the CWS are from the SEC.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:18 am to parkjas2001
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is there an anti SEC movement out there? That would explain that 25% of the teams in the CWS are from the SEC.
sarcasm?
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:29 am to LSU GrandDad
You SEC guys are absurd. You can't stand having another conference doing well even though you are unquestionably the strongest conference in baseball. Using a unbiased metric such as RPI shows that the ACC had something like 10 schools in the top 40...the real question is: why doesn't that deserve some LOVE?
Glad to see that there are some reasonable responses to the OP.
Glad to see that there are some reasonable responses to the OP.
This post was edited on 5/29/12 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:37 am to LSU GrandDad
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the LOVE for ACC baseball
Is way more muted this year than it usually is.
In past years the media would always be talking like "this is going to be a breakout year for the ACC" (or sometimes the Pac10 or Big12), but this year everybody seems to be acknowledging SEC dominance without question.
Yes, the ACC did get 5 hosts, including Miami which probably didn't deserve one; but that was balanced out by having the 3 best teams left on the bubble all being from the ACC--Maryland, Wake Forest, & Virginia Tech all got left home, while the following teams with worse RPIs got the last at-large bids:
#37. Missouri State -- Missouri Valley
#40. Appalachian State -- SoCo
#42. Louisville -- Big East
#44. Indiana State -- Missouri Valley
#45. Michigan State -- Big Ten
#49. College of Charleston -- SoCo
#52. Sam Houston State -- Southland
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Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:45 am to TulaneUVA
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You SEC guys are absurd
ACC = 5 regional hosts
PAC 10 = 4 regional hosts
SEC = 3 regional hosts
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You are unquestionably the strongest conference in baseball
You wouldn't know it by looking at the host sites.
We'll get to prove it on the field. I think there are 4 SEC/ACC regional matchups.
This post was edited on 5/29/12 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:45 am to TulaneUVA
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the LOVE for ACC baseballYou SEC guys are absurd. You can't stand having another conference doing well even though you are unquestionably the strongest conference in baseball. Using a unbiased metric such as RPI shows that the ACC had something like 10 schools in the top 40...the real question is: why doesn't that deserve some LOVE?
i guess i understand why you are touchy. however, i don't mind other conferences doing well and frankly the ACC would be the one i'd rather see do well. believe it or not, my question was an honest one as it appeared to me the ACC got biased treatment. however, the responses convinced me that wasn't the case.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:06 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 5/29/12 at 11:06 am to LSU GrandDad
Three national seeds though.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 11:24 am to LSU GrandDad
RPI Bias!!!!
COmputer formulas are anti ACC!
COmputer formulas are anti ACC!
Posted on 5/29/12 at 1:11 pm to Doc Fenton
It would have been huge for Maryland baseball to make the field. Of course, it would also be huge for Terps baseball to make the ACC tournament field. Never had the slightest thought they would get included--on the Terps boards, LSU's being left out last year was brough up every time someone suggested the Terps might sneak in.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 1:26 pm to Swoopin
Who's UGA's Big Bruh?
Posted on 5/29/12 at 1:39 pm to TulaneUVA
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a unbiased metric such as RPI
Letting a chicken pick teams randomly would be unbiased as well. And would make just as much sense as RPI.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 1:52 pm to F1V3LSU
LSU fans don't ever want to hear the baseball selection committee talk about RPI, seeing that we were the hightest rated team (RPI) left out of the NCAA tournament... EVER!
I'm guessing that Miami played a ton of non-conference road games because last year LSU was told that a sweep of CSF didn't mean anything because it was at home. Nope, Miami did not travel non-conference. The NCAA once again proves inept.
I'm guessing that Miami played a ton of non-conference road games because last year LSU was told that a sweep of CSF didn't mean anything because it was at home. Nope, Miami did not travel non-conference. The NCAA once again proves inept.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 3:08 pm to Beltway Bengal
You know good and well the NCAA is going to pull some strings to get teams from the Big East or Big Ten (like Louisville & Michigan State) in, but having the College of Charleston & Sam Houston State get in was kind of surprising to me.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 3:51 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Letting a chicken pick teams randomly would be unbiased as well. And would make just as much sense as RPI
Unbiased was the wrong word. I should have used "objective" measure. I'd love to see you start your own objective measurement formula ala Boyds or Warren Nolan and put up your own criteria without inherent bias.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 4:03 pm to Choupique19
I mean, Miami at least had a top 15 RPI, got to the ACC tourney championship game, and had like a top 5 toughest schedule. Now they do have the worst record of all the hosting teams, but it's not that far off in 35-21. Stanford and Arizona both have 38 wins. If you blank out the "Miami" team name and just look at the credentials, that's a team worth hosting. Now is it debateable? Sure, but it's plausible enough that I don't 
the committee.
Other than RPI and SOS, I don't think LSU las tyear quite had enough to make it. I mean, they didn't even make the SEC tourney. That's bad.
the committee. Other than RPI and SOS, I don't think LSU las tyear quite had enough to make it. I mean, they didn't even make the SEC tourney. That's bad.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 4:07 pm to TulaneUVA
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Other than RPI and SOS, I don't think LSU las tyear quite had enough to make it. I mean, they didn't even make the SEC tourney. That's bad.
its not that bad. ole miss made the ncaa tourney this year with the 9th best record in the league, like lsu last year. And their rpi was 3 spots worse and they didnt have a signature OOC series win like lsu did with their sweep of CSF.
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