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re: Post rematch opinion

Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:53 am to
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There wouldn't have been a rematch had Okie Lite and Stanford not lost....we got lucky Luck is defined as preparation meeting opportunity. There was no luck. Other teams had their chance, but could not make their "luck" as their preparation was not there when the opportunity presented itself.



OK State was up 24-7 on Iowa State and then the grief of the loss of a coach that 98% of the team couldn't pick out of a line up hit them and the will to play football left them. That loss was completely understandable.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:54 am to
Sounds to me that you like it only if it is to Bama's advantage.

I have no problem with a rematch. What I do have a problem with is under the current system, being able to not win your conference and getting into the title game. This is the second time it has happened and both games involved LSU.

As it is now, the SEC Championship is now meaningless.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:54 am to
A Plus One format, as voted on by the Coaches final poll.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:55 am to
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When is the last time the best team wasn't bcs champ?

Any time a team is undefeated at the end of the regular season and doesn't have a chance to play for the championship, e.g. Auburn 2004.
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It's a screwy system, but it's gotten it right so far

This is a guess. Opinions aren't played out on the field.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:57 am to
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As it is now, the SEC Championship is now meaningless.


The SEC is the toughest conference in college football. If you think the title is meaningless you are mistaken. What happened this year only means that the top two teams are capable of playing in the same conference. If other conferences want to surpass the SEC they need to do it on the field and for six straight years they have failed.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:06 am to
My opinion is that Alabama deserved to beat a team that had a minimum of heart and fight.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
5376 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:07 am to
Alabama and LSU played twice. Once in Alabama and once in Louisiana. The combined score of those games were 27-9. LSU won the first game and their reward was the SEC west title. Then, they had to play the 2nd ranked team. The reward for that game was the bcs title. Alabama was the best team this year.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:10 am to
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The SEC is the toughest conference in college football. If you think the title is meaningless you are mistaken. What happened this year only means that the top two teams are capable of playing in the same conference. If other conferences want to surpass the SEC they need to do it on the field and for six straight years they have failed.

Don't get me wrong...I believe Alabama was the best team in the country but the BCS system is terribly flawed and might not always work out where "the best" team has a shot.

Suppose the best 2 or three teams in the SEC have 2 losses at the end of the regular season and a couple of other conferences (let's say the Big 10 and Big 12) have teams with 1 or none losses...

The SEC teams could be left out completely, irregardless of opinions. These SEC teams, more than likely, would not get a shot, regardless of how much better we think they are. Would you be for a playoff in that event?
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1591 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:12 am to
the problem with rematches in college football is only one team gets the rematch - a great bama team given the opportunity to redeem itself and a great LSU team waits a year.

the BCS is meant to match 1 and 2 AND the syatem did that
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:14 am to
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the problem with rematches in college football is only one team gets the rematch




I'm absolutely sure that Alabama and LSU played each other in a rematch. I agree that only one team was mentally prepared and wanted to play in the game though if that is what you mean.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:17 am to
The stronger the SEC becomes, with more parity throughout, the more chance there is for 2 other conferences to match up in a BCS championship game, even if the SEC has the best or the best 2 teams in the country. It WILL happen if a playoff system isn't implemented. It's just a matter of when.
Posted by bama1989
Decatur, AL
Member since Dec 2011
122 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:19 am to
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So now that you've enjoyed the benefits of a rematch you don't want anymore of them in the future is that right? I didn't hear any protests from Bama fans prior to the NCG. Hypocritical Gumps.


I'm on record complaining prior to Nov5 on a different board. The talking heads were discussing the potential of a rematch if LSU lost in a close one. I posted it would suck for all the reasons you guys did in reverse. Rematches suck for the winner of the first game.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15561 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:22 am to
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The stronger the SEC becomes, with more parity throughout, the more chance there is for 2 other conferences to match up in a BCS championship game, even if the SEC has the best or the best 2 teams in the country. It WILL happen if a playoff system isn't implemented. It's just a matter of when.


Well the SEC has been won the last 4 years by 4 different teams. Parity is certainly alive and well in this conference.

Georgia, South Carolina or Arkansas would love to make that 5 different teams in a row. None of which would hugely surprise us.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:22 am to
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Don't get me wrong...I believe Alabama was the best team in the country but the BCS system is terribly flawed and might not always work out where "the best" team has a shot. Suppose the best 2 or three teams in the SEC have 2 losses at the end of the regular season and a couple of other conferences (let's say the Big 10 and Big 12) have teams with 1 or none losses... The SEC teams could be left out completely, irregardless of opinions. These SEC teams, more than likely, would not get a shot, regardless of how much better we think they are. Would you be for a playoff in that event?


When did I ever say I was against a playoff? I think a playoff in college football would be great and is long overdue. If there had been one Bama would have had the chance to play for the title in 3 of the last 4 years. Two of those without winning the conference. The same people bitching now would bitch then if Bama had won without winning the SEC. I guess no playoff benefited Bama because I read on CBS sportline Bama would not have won either title if there was a playoff. Ok State would have beat us and somehow McCoy stayed healthy and beat us in the other. Let's keep the system the way it is.
Posted by bama1989
Decatur, AL
Member since Dec 2011
122 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:25 am to
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The stronger the SEC becomes, with more parity throughout, the more chance there is for 2 other conferences to match up in a BCS championship game, even if the SEC has the best or the best 2 teams in the country. It WILL happen if a playoff system isn't implemented. It's just a matter of when.

4 teams max. I am a huge fan of the bowl system. Anything more would ruin it.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:26 am to
Everyone griping about the BCS, should be thankful for it instead. Many of you don't remember or weren't around under the old way of awarding NC's.

Take 1984 as a prime example.

BYU was crowned national champions after going undefeated, winning.... the Holiday Bowl against the titans of Michigan, who was unranked. The only ranked team they played the entire year, was Pittsburgh, who finished the season .. unranked.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:27 am to
R
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ematches suck for the winner of the first game.



What about Alabama in the 1999 SECCG?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:27 am to
nm.. read wrong.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 10:28 am
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:28 am to
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I do not want to play Florida again after the 09' SECCG


I think Texas would've beaten them and if McCoy didn't get hurt early that next game would have been much better

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and they wouldn't want to replay us after the 08' SECCG


They wouldn't have, you'd have lost to Oklahoma or Utah. I think the Florida/Utah game would have been a great one.




Rematches are dumb, I hope we wait a few decades and start to claim this season's national title.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:31 am to
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Everyone griping about the BCS, should be thankful for it instead. Many of you don't remember or weren't around under the old way of awarding NC's.


I agree with you and then again, I sort of yearn for the old way. Perhaps then, people would not be so freaked out about #1's and all that stuff? But, then again, like back in 1984, no Internet, sports forums, etc.
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