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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:27 am
congrats unlike edwards he is not biased..
bama will be ahead in both boths BUT
okie st will be #2 in standings ..
congrats LSU crush them
it was the VT loss that made the difference
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bama will be ahead in both boths BUT
okie st will be #2 in standings ..
congrats LSU crush them
it was the VT loss that made the difference
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This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:28 am to DCtide
will be interesting to see how he projects human votes
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am to DCtide
more to come..
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:29 am to DCtide
Another reason why the BCS is a flawed system. One team is two in 2/3 of the formula...one team is two in 1/3? BCS sucks.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:30 am to DCtide
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:31 am to DCtide
I have been believing the BCS would favor Ok st after such an impressive win over a quality opponent yet again.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Yes.
The OSU lead in the computers is .04.
Bama's lead in each poll could be less than .02, allowing OSU to jump them.
The OSU lead in the computers is .04.
Bama's lead in each poll could be less than .02, allowing OSU to jump them.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:47 am to DCtide
National championships should be determined on the field, not by votes and computers.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:48 am to Porky
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National championships should be determined on the field, not by votes and computers.
It will be, unless Bama gets in.
That part of the mystery is over
ETA: That's why we call this the MNC right? It's basically a bullshite game and has been hugely one-sided most of the decade.
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:48 am to Porky
How else would you determine the top teams? Even in a playoff, there would need to be some sort of ranking system.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:49 am to Porky
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National championships should be determined on the field, not by votes and computers.
Well, LSU vs. Bama has already been decided on the field, no?
So...OSU's turn, IYO?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:50 am to LSUfan007700
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It will be, unless Bama gets in.
That part of the mystery is over
Yes, I agree. But until there's a playoff the system is skewed badly.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:53 am to Porky
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Yes, I agree. But until there's a playoff the system is skewed badly.
Obviously. My thing is this. You already have 5 BCS games. Just pick the teams for the four BCS bowls and have that plus one after. That is not a perfect scenario, but it would be the one that is the least dramatic.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:53 am to graychef
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How else would you determine the top teams? Even in a playoff, there would need to be some sort of ranking system.
I agree about the need for a ranking system. For starters, nobody should be ranked ahead of anyone else before the season begins. I could see the ranking system only being valid after a few games into the season.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am to LSUfan007700
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Obviously. My thing is this. You already have 5 BCS games. Just pick the teams for the four BCS bowls and have that plus one after. That is not a perfect scenario, but it would be the one that is the least dramatic.
Definitely an improvement.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am to Porky
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National championships should be determined on the field
For Bama it was determined on the field... OSU not so much
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to DCtide
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In a stunning turn of events, Oklahoma State will face LSU inthe BCS Championship Game on Jan. 9, not Alabama, as had been widely believed until the wee hours Saturday night.
The final BCS Standings will be close between OSU and Alabama, with the computers unanimously locking in the CowboysatNo.2 and Alabama at No. 3. And then it would be up to the voters to render their final verdict.
More of them will still have Alabama at No. 2, in both the coaches and Harris polls, but OSU's edge in the computers will be enough to overcome the Crimson Tide's advantage in the two human polls.
A few things that happened tonight turned the tide:
* Oklahoma State's impressive victory over Oklahoma was a resounding statement. The Cowboys proved that notonly they could score, but they could play sound defense and cause game-changing turnovers.
* Virginia Tech's blowout loss against Clemson removed a direct competitor for the precious No. 2 votes, notto mention the all-important No. 3 votes. Remember, OSU was No. 5 in both pollscominginto Saturday night's game.
* CBS's shameless and disingenuous cheerleading for Alabama ultimately will prove to have done more harm to the Tide than help. If CBS had done nothing, it's likely it wouldn'thavecausedenoughvoters to have such a revulsion to decline an LSU-Alabama rematch.Whereas Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson definitely made the difference in Florida's favor in 2006, the opposite must be said in this case.
* Finally, the fact that the only other worthy1-lossteams: Alabama, Stanford and Boise State all failed to win their respective conferences bolstered OSU's case. Even though the BCS never made that a requirement to reach the title game, many voters would like to consider that a prerequisite.
So that's the shocking conclusion to this strange regular season that really proved that LSU is unquestionably the best team inthe land. But because of the system that we have, the Tigers will have to play one more game to make it official. They're probably glad that it won't be the Crimson Tide.
There will be more drama beyond the unveiling of the participants in the BCS title game. For more analysis - and the BCSBowlProjections,check tomorrow morning at SB Nation.
Here's the projected final BCS Standings:
1. LSU, 2. Oklahoma State, 3. Alabama, 4. Stanford,5. Oregon,6. Boise State, 7. Arkansas, 8. Kansas State, 9. SouthCarolina,10. Wisconsin,11. Baylor, 12. Virginia Tech, 13. Michigan, 14. Houston, 15. Oklahoma, 16. Michigan State, 17. Clemson, 18. TCU, 19. Georgia, 20. Nebraska.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am to ShermanTxTiger
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For Bama it was determined on the field... OSU not so much
With a playoff, they both get a chance.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am to ShermanTxTiger
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For Bama it was determined on the field... OSU not so much
That's my main argument over Bama. Basically it's like, should Bama get a second chance when we have a conference champion in the deepest conference this year who also blew everyone out but one team, also lost in OT, etc. You have a ranking system because not everyone gets to play (or enough teams don't play), so you have to give a team with a similar body of work a chance.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:04 am to LSUfan007700
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Obviously. My thing is this. You already have 5 BCS games. Just pick the teams for the four BCS bowls and have that plus one after. That is not a perfect scenario, but it would be the one that is the least dramatic.
A plus-one just makes so much sense, imo. I realize the concern is that it will lead to further expansion a la ncaa basketball. But serious contractual impediments to further expansion could be put in place.
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