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This basically sums up UF's problems... It's a horror story...

Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:26 pm
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:26 pm
Florida’s Troubles Start with Meyer’s Recruiting

Posted on November 13, 2011 by Daniel Thompson
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Urban Meyer
Urban Meyer was a great recruiter; there is no doubting that. In 2005, the Gators had the 15th best recruiting class, 2006 the 2nd, 2007 the 1st, 2008 the 3rd, 2009 the 11th and 2010 the 1st (According to Rivals.com).
However, with the Gators 5-5 this season, many are quick to blame Will Muschamp, Dan Quinn and Charlie Weis for the Gators problems.
I argue, however, that despite great recruiting classes by Urban Meyer, he left the team depleted.
In order to back my claim I need to re-evaluate every player that has been signed from 2007 until now.

2007 (#1) – Graduated or Redshirt Seniors
Ahmad Black, S – Great career at UF. Graduated.
John Brantley, QB – Current starting QB
John Brown, DT – Transfer
Torrey Davis, DT – Transfer
Carlos Dunlap, DE – Great career at UF. NFL.
Lorenzo Edwards, LB – Minimal Impact at UF
Jerimy Finch, LB – Transfer
Joe Haden, DB – Great career at UF. NFL
Chas Henry, P – Great career at UF. NFL.
Aaron Hernandez, TE – Great career at UF. NFL.
Brandon Hicks, LB – Mediocre career at UF. Graduated.
Jerry Howard, DE/DT – Redshirt senior. Starting DT.
Moses Jenkins, DB – Poor career at UF. Redshirt Senior.
John Jones, LB – Transfer.
Duke Lemmons, DE – Good career at UF. Graduated.
Cameron Newton, QB – Transfer
Maurkice Pouncey, OL – Great career at UF. NFL.
Michael Pouncey, OL – Great career at UF. NFL.
Chris Rainey, RB – Starting RB. Redshirt Senior.
Deonte Thompson. WR – Solid starter at UF. Redshirt Senior.
Justin Trattou, DE – Solid career at UF. Graduated.
Bryan Waggener, QB – Transfer
Steve Wilks, DB – Little career at UF. Graduated.
Bo Williams, RB – Transfer
James Wilson, OL – Part-time starter. Redshirt Senior.
Paul Wilson, WR – Little career at UF. Graduated.
Major Wright, S – Great career at UF. NFL.
Review: Urban Meyer’s best class. Seven players made it to the NFL. However, of those who are redshirt seniors: John Brantley has underperformed, James Wilson has underperformed, Deonte Thompson has underperformed and Moses Jenkins has underperformed. Only Chris Rainey and Jay (Jerry) Howard have performed well of those still on UF roster. Three QBs recruited; two transfer.

2008 (#3) Senior or Redshirt Junior
Brendan Beal, LB – Transfer
Jeremy Brown, DB – Part-time starter. Injury prone.
Adrian Bushell, DB – Transfer
Jeffrey Demps, RB – Starter. Great career at UF.
Troy Epps, DT – Little career at UF. Graduated.
Dee Finley, LB – Went to JUCO; enrolled in 2009.
William Green, DE – Starter.
Frankie Hammond, Jr., WR – Part-time starter
Will Hill, S – Left for NFL
Omarius Hines, WR – Part-time starter
Omar Hunter, DT – Part-time starter
Janoris Jenkins, DB – Kicked off team. Transfer.
Byran Jones, DT – Transfer
T.J. Lawrence, WR – Transfer
Lerentee McCray, LB – Part-time starter
Carl Moore, WR – Graduated.
Earl Okine, DE – Little career at UF.
Matt Patchan, OL – Starting Offensive Line.
T.J. Pridemore, LB – Graduated.
Sam Robey, OL – Starting Center.
Caleb Sturgis, K – Starting Kicker
David Young, OL – Little career at UF.
Review: Of this class, only one player left for NFL (Will Hill). Five players have transferred. One player graduated early. Only five players currently are full time starters. Of those that did not transfer, David Young, TJ Pridemore and Troy Epps did not do much in their career at UF. No QBs recruited.

2009 (#11) Junior or Redshirt Sophomore
Nick Alajajian, OL – Little career at UF
Stephen Alli, WR – Little career at UF
Jon Bostic, LB – Starting LB.
Gary Brown, DT – Transfer.
Andre Debose, WR – Part-time starter
Joshua Evans, S – Part-time starter
Dee Finley, S – Transfer.
Mike Gillislee, RB – Part-time starter.
Jon Halapio, OL – Starting Offensive Line
Jonotthan Harrison, OL – Former starting Center
Edwin Herbert, DT – Transfer.
Jelani Jenkins, LB – Starting LB
Kedric Johnson, DE – Little impact at UF
Kyle Koehne, OL – Part-time starter on Offensive Line
Xavier Nixon, OL – Starter on Offensive Line
Desmond Parks, TE – No longer on team
Jordan Reed, QB – Moved to TE. Starter.
Review: Three transfers. Only five full-time starters. Nick Alajajian, Stephen Alli, Andre Debose, Kedric Johnson and Xavier Nixon have underperformed. Edwin Herbert and Desmond Parks did not have any career at UF. Mike Gillislee has struggled with blocking and learning the offense. Jon Bostic and Jelani Jenkins only bright spots. One QB recruited and moved to TE.

2010 (#1) Sophomore or Redshirt Freshman
Gideon Ajagbe, LB – No impact.
Neiron Ball, DE – Non-football injury. No impact.
Mack Brown, RB – No impact.
Trey Burton, QB – Moved to TE. Struggling to find role.
Gerald Christian, TE – Transfer.
Robert Clark, TE – Transfer.
Adrian Coxson, WR – Transfer.
Jonathan Dowling, S – Transfer.
Quinton Dunbar, WR – Minimal Impact.
Chris Dunkley, WR – Transfer.
Dominique Easley, DT – Solid Starter.
Matt Elam, S – Great player.
Sharrif Floyd, DT – Solid starter.
Chaz Green, OL – Former starter.
Jordan Haden, DB – Transfer.
Darrin Kitchens, LB – Minimal impact.
Michael McFarland, TE – Transfer
Tyler Murphy, QB – No impact.
Leon Orr, OL – Minimal impact.
Ronald Powell, DE – Starter with little impact.
Cody Riggs, DB – Starter at times. Decent impact.
Joshua Shaw, S – Starter. Decent.
Ian Silberman, OL – Minimal impact.
Michael Taylor, LB – Minimal impact.
Lynden Trail, DE – No impact.
Jaylen Watkins, DB – Starter with decent impact.
Review: Dubbed the “Best Recruiting Class Ever.” Seven transfers. Six starters. Neiron Ball, Tyler Murphy, Gideon Ajagbe and Lynden Trail have had no career at UF. Ronald Powell and Mack Brown have underperformed. Too early to judge many of these players. One QB recruited and moved to TE/FB.

Final Review: It is quite clear and quite evident that while Meyer’s classes were great on paper, they left much to be desired. Twenty-two (22) players transferred. Nine players had no career or no legitimate playing time at UF. At least seven players have drastically played below their rankings. Six QBs were recruited, only two are currently on the roster as QBs, two are TEs and two transferred, leaving UF with a Redshirt Senior QB, a Redshirt Freshman QB and two Freshmen QBs. The Gators have struggled to recruit talented Wide Receivers. The Gators have struggled to find a “Power Running Back” that can block and knows the playbook. The Gators have struggled mightily recruiting Defensive Ends. The Gators Offensive Line has been considered “small”. The Gators have struggled to recruit and retain blocking Tight Ends. UF currently only has 69 players on their roster (85 is the maximum).
It should be quite clear and quite evident why UF is playing poorly this year. While UF owes Urban Meyer and staff a debt of gratitude, UF really struggled retaining and developing talent, especially for a “Pro-Style” Offense.
The Gators are currently on track for a top-3 recruiting class, but this is not a one-season fix. There are MAJOR holes on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. Please be patient with Will Muschamp and staff as they try to build depth AND develop talent.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30505 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:28 pm to
That's a lot to read, is it anything like what tubs did to Auburn?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72919 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:29 pm to
:ibb4tl,dr:
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:29 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:29 pm to
Obviously... WAY TOO frickING LONG.

I mean WTF? You expect us to read that entire thing??

Seriously man, cliffnotes or something.

TIA
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282128 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:31 pm to
Simply means they are blaming the other guy, and absolving the new guy.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96909 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:31 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

That's a lot to read, is it anything like what tubs did to Auburn?



Not quite. Tubbs didn't give a shite in general. Meyer recruited hard, he just went with the Larry Coker method his last two years.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30606 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:34 pm to
So we should blame Muschamp that Meyer left us with practically 66 scholarship players? We're pretty much on major probation right now.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:37 pm to
Ah ha.

quote:

Final Review: It is quite clear and quite evident that while Meyer’s classes were great on paper, they left much to be desired. Twenty-two (22) players transferred. Nine players had no career or no legitimate playing time at UF. At least seven players have drastically played below their rankings. Six QBs were recruited, only two are currently on the roster as QBs, two are TEs and two transferred, leaving UF with a Redshirt Senior QB, a Redshirt Freshman QB and two Freshmen QBs.


This sums it up well enough.

Sounds exactly like AU honestly.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:37 pm to
Daaaaamn.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30606 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:39 pm to
Basically, we're set back for a few years. shite sucks.
Posted by Mercy Percy
Norman Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2009
1321 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:41 pm to
I liked it thanks. How do u think we are going to do this yr in getting kids to the swamp? I haven't paid much attn to it.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30606 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:44 pm to
Recruiting wise? We will finish with a solid class. Need some early contributors.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:45 pm to
I've been waiting for this moment for 20 years. but unfortunately UT sucks even worse
Posted by Mercy Percy
Norman Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2009
1321 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:46 pm to
Yeah. Top 5. Top 10 in your opinion ???
Posted by simbo
Member since Jun 2011
1664 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:46 pm to
It also sounds like the recruiting classes from Gerry Dinardo's last 3 years at LSU before he got canned. Everybody thought he was getting "great" players but couldn't keep them eligible, out of jail, from leaving and in the classroom.

It's called attrition and is very important in evaluating a coach and recruiting classes.

Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30606 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 7:51 pm to
Top 5.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 8:23 pm to
BOOM is losing with Meyer's players........

It's a common theme around college sports (unless you are a fair haired boy, then your early success has zero to do with your predeccessor).
Posted by srotaG adirolF
Lakeland, Florida
Member since May 2004
800 posts
Posted on 11/13/11 at 8:27 pm to
66 players? Try 61.

No one knew that "Top 1% of 1%" meant probation. Meyer, for all that he did for the program, set us back 2 years. I'm willing to give this coaching staff time to get things straight (4 years).
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