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re: Richt admits team didn't give a full effort several times in 2010
Posted on 4/24/11 at 5:59 pm to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 4/24/11 at 5:59 pm to 7thWardTiger
You don't like Richt being at UGA? 
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Posted on 4/24/11 at 6:09 pm to gatordmb89
It'd be weird to move back to the 4-3 after puttIng so much effort in moving over to the 3-4. But I'd say it would be a real strong hire. His recruiting savvy is only gravy because I mean not to sound way to homer but it doesn't look to bebrerrobly hard to recruit for Georgia
Posted on 4/24/11 at 6:39 pm to Damn Good Dawg
would like to remind all you UGA "fans" out there about that little 10-win season thread> please note that the ONLY times UGA managed the feat was with Herschel Walker and under Mark Richt. Say whatever you want about how UGA should have won a national title...yada...yada,,,, yada, but quite frankly, if you look at the cold hard facts, Richt has been the best head coach UGA has ever had. Dooley beat UF, but he could only rarely beat Bear Bryant in any given year.
All that being said, I understand that coaches certainly do lose the sharpness over time, and those close with the program said that Richt definitely lost focus the year or two that his wife was battling cancer. Life is easy when you believe you are invulnerable. The decisions get harder and the lines go gray when the Fates give you a whole fistful of WTF to the jaw...ask Urban Meyer. However, no matter what happens this year and no matter what occurred the past two years, I laugh when people rewrite history to call Richt at best an average coach. You can have a lucky year or an unlucky year in the SEC, but when you have consistently been above average to a conference champion over a period of 10 years in the SEC, you are at least an above average coach. Meyer burned out relatively swiftly. Saban couldn't put together back to back great seasons at LSU. It isn't quite as easy as it looks, guys.
I want the Cocktail Party record to change more than anyone else being from south Georgia. However, I can really only point to the 2005 game as a truly horrible sample of coaching in that series, and that was on both sides. Man, that was one of the suckiest games I have ever seen. Both teams played like 3-day old piss.
If you have watched UGA football for the last decade, you will have noticed that most things have stayed relatively the same. I am pretty sure the offensive consistency might shock a few people if you looked at the stats. ( And I am Bobo's biggest malcontent, except when it comes to QB coaching because I think he is actually one of the best in the country at that.) The biggest difference in great seasons and average to poor season has been the speed of the defense. I have never seen a UGA defense play as slow as it did the last two seasons. I can only hope that will change for the better this year.
Sure, if the season goes south again this year, you will probably see a coaching change, but the chances that it will be an overall success in the immediate aftermath are not that good- just look at history across CFB.
All that being said, I understand that coaches certainly do lose the sharpness over time, and those close with the program said that Richt definitely lost focus the year or two that his wife was battling cancer. Life is easy when you believe you are invulnerable. The decisions get harder and the lines go gray when the Fates give you a whole fistful of WTF to the jaw...ask Urban Meyer. However, no matter what happens this year and no matter what occurred the past two years, I laugh when people rewrite history to call Richt at best an average coach. You can have a lucky year or an unlucky year in the SEC, but when you have consistently been above average to a conference champion over a period of 10 years in the SEC, you are at least an above average coach. Meyer burned out relatively swiftly. Saban couldn't put together back to back great seasons at LSU. It isn't quite as easy as it looks, guys.
I want the Cocktail Party record to change more than anyone else being from south Georgia. However, I can really only point to the 2005 game as a truly horrible sample of coaching in that series, and that was on both sides. Man, that was one of the suckiest games I have ever seen. Both teams played like 3-day old piss.
If you have watched UGA football for the last decade, you will have noticed that most things have stayed relatively the same. I am pretty sure the offensive consistency might shock a few people if you looked at the stats. ( And I am Bobo's biggest malcontent, except when it comes to QB coaching because I think he is actually one of the best in the country at that.) The biggest difference in great seasons and average to poor season has been the speed of the defense. I have never seen a UGA defense play as slow as it did the last two seasons. I can only hope that will change for the better this year.
Sure, if the season goes south again this year, you will probably see a coaching change, but the chances that it will be an overall success in the immediate aftermath are not that good- just look at history across CFB.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 6:55 pm to SoGaFan
You don't have to think I'm fan. Frankly I don't care. However, you are right about some of that. RIcht is a victim of his own success. However, this program has been noticeably declined and richt has shown examples of losing control. Lack of success in the past regarding titles does not make it ok. He isn't Joe Pa, he can't be allowed to plunge the program into mediocrity.
Honestly I'm too tired to write out my full response for when people think Richt should be coach for life but it's somewhere if ya look for it in past threads. He has a year to fix it. If it's meant to be then win the east. Otherwise, new coach time and the fun transition years
Honestly I'm too tired to write out my full response for when people think Richt should be coach for life but it's somewhere if ya look for it in past threads. He has a year to fix it. If it's meant to be then win the east. Otherwise, new coach time and the fun transition years
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:04 pm to Damn Good Dawg
UGA fans just need to be careful..... you might hire the next Vince Dooley... or the next Ray Goff.... hiring HCs is pretty much a crapshoot.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:24 pm to lowspark12
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UGA fans just need to be careful..... you might hire the next Vince Dooley... or the next Ray Goff.... hiring HCs is pretty much a crapshoot.
you're right. and getting a new coach will suck for a while. transition seasons blow. but i mean you just can't get complacent. richt isn't doing much more than a new coach trying to match personnel would do.
they have to get a proven commodity and they have put max effort into this next hire which i don't think they did with Goff. if they were smart we would have hired good ole Erk
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:27 pm to Damn Good Dawg
if Richt coaches to another subpar year like this past one, he is done. I would be ready for a new coach if I were a UGA fan.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:29 pm to tiger perry
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if Richt coaches to another subpar year like this past one, he is done. I would be ready for a new coach if I were a UGA fan.
God knows I am. if he fixes it fine but I'm a Georgia fan, not a Richt fan. but by now i think everyone on TD knows that ha
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:32 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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God knows I am. if he fixes it fine but I'm a Georgia fan, not a Richt fan. but by now i think everyone on TD knows that ha
glad to have you. There aren't a whole lotta UGA fans here.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:34 pm to tiger perry
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glad to have you. There aren't a whole lotta UGA fans here.
you're a good man mr. perry
and you're one of the few people here who will actually talk Georgia football here who isn't a dawg
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:40 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Herein lies the ultimate indictment against Richt. Talent has never been and will never be the issue at Georgia (except I'm not sure Rambo would start at Vandy).
Year in and year out, Georgia plays unorganized, uninspired football. They generally rank among the worst in penalaties, turnovers, and off-the-field arrests (with Athens downtown at their fingertips, I can't pass judgment on players wanting to live it up). Excluding the second half of '07-'08 season and D.J. Shockley's senior year, I have yet to see a Georgia team in recent memory play inspired, disciplined football.
I don't doubt Richt's knowledge of the X's and O's (I doubt Bobo's), and I think Grantham was a great hire to instill some discipline in the program. But when your team doesn't give full effort in the friggin' SEC, responsibility for that falls on the head coach.
Year in and year out, Georgia plays unorganized, uninspired football. They generally rank among the worst in penalaties, turnovers, and off-the-field arrests (with Athens downtown at their fingertips, I can't pass judgment on players wanting to live it up). Excluding the second half of '07-'08 season and D.J. Shockley's senior year, I have yet to see a Georgia team in recent memory play inspired, disciplined football.
I don't doubt Richt's knowledge of the X's and O's (I doubt Bobo's), and I think Grantham was a great hire to instill some discipline in the program. But when your team doesn't give full effort in the friggin' SEC, responsibility for that falls on the head coach.
This post was edited on 4/24/11 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:47 pm to GeoBama
damn fine representation of mr richt sir
although i think 2002-2004 those teams were damn good. he could have done better in areas, yea, but 2002-2005 (as you included for DJs year) he did a pretty damn good job. 2006 he was rebuilding so 9-4 aint half bad at all. 2007 they were great but he really fricked our chances at a title with losses to a shitty USCe and a skull fricking from UT. 2008 was horrendous, 2009 was awful, and 2010 was an abortion.
all the while what you said was peppered in.
although i think 2002-2004 those teams were damn good. he could have done better in areas, yea, but 2002-2005 (as you included for DJs year) he did a pretty damn good job. 2006 he was rebuilding so 9-4 aint half bad at all. 2007 they were great but he really fricked our chances at a title with losses to a shitty USCe and a skull fricking from UT. 2008 was horrendous, 2009 was awful, and 2010 was an abortion.
all the while what you said was peppered in.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:52 pm to HBTD
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Richt is one and out. Lose the Boise St opener and it's all down hill...
That might be wishful thinking on your part that denies the reality of the situation. Other than the lack of a NC, CMR is one of the best if not the best football coach in UGA history. I promise you, if Richt goes 9-3 and maybe even 8-4 but with a win over Florida, he will get a contract extension.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 7:54 pm to davesdawgs
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davesdawgs
dude imagine all the speculation if we go 8-4? they'll have no clue what to do. seriously, between the AJC writing 10 articles an hour, our personal misery, or the fact GATA's head may explode on DR it certainly will be interesting to watch... from the outside
Posted on 4/24/11 at 8:02 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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dude imagine all the speculation if we go 8-4? they'll have no clue what to do. seriously, between the AJC writing 10 articles an hour, our personal misery, or the fact GATA's head may explode on DR it certainly will be interesting to watch... from the outside
Hugely entertaining for the outside observer which does not describe you and me.
If Richt goes 7-5 or 8-4 without a win over Florida I will be disappointed big-time and will probably be ready to hand him his hat myself. There's really no excuse. We have the easiest SEC schedule imaginable, probably the best experienced QB in the SEC and the 2nd year in a much improved defense under Grantham. If CMR can't contend for the East this season, he may as well start looking for greener pastures. Posted on 4/24/11 at 8:05 pm to davesdawgs
absolutely
Posted on 4/24/11 at 8:54 pm to Damn Good Dawg
although i think 2002-2004 those teams were damn good. he could have done better in areas, yea, but 2002-2005 (as you included for DJs year) he did a pretty damn good job. 2006 he was rebuilding so 9-4 aint half bad at all. 2007 they were great but he really fricked our chances at a title with losses to a shitty USCe and a skull fricking from UT. 2008 was horrendous, 2009 was awful, and 2010 was an abortion.
The timeline you give of when the team started to squander into penalty/turnover ridden, undisciplined football seems to align with the time Van Gorder left the program. You think Van Gorder's departure had anything to do with it? I've had numerous UGA friends cite this as the main reason, in their minds, for Georgia's recent play. Thoughts?
The timeline you give of when the team started to squander into penalty/turnover ridden, undisciplined football seems to align with the time Van Gorder left the program. You think Van Gorder's departure had anything to do with it? I've had numerous UGA friends cite this as the main reason, in their minds, for Georgia's recent play. Thoughts?
Posted on 4/24/11 at 9:00 pm to GeoBama
a lot of fans see BVG leaving as the turning point. its true though, 2005 you would see spots where our defense collapsed unlike before (see AU 2005 and WVU 2005/6)
it really i think led to it. Willie Martinez was awful. richt would not fire him until our defense had completely regressed into the laughable unit you have seen the last 2 years. my tipping point? Alabama 2008. since then all that richt had done wrong in the past caught up with him. he finally let go of willie but a little too late. same with Van Halanger. some say bobo. he has a problem firing his buddies and its catching up
it really i think led to it. Willie Martinez was awful. richt would not fire him until our defense had completely regressed into the laughable unit you have seen the last 2 years. my tipping point? Alabama 2008. since then all that richt had done wrong in the past caught up with him. he finally let go of willie but a little too late. same with Van Halanger. some say bobo. he has a problem firing his buddies and its catching up
Posted on 4/24/11 at 9:21 pm to davesdawgs
So it all hinges on beat UF. You might want to start pre packing his bags because you know as well as I do the odds aren't better than 40% that happens. You have to give Florida the edge every year until UGA wins the game more consistently.
Posted on 4/24/11 at 9:23 pm to gatordmb89
shite dude even though people were convinced we had this year (the AJC is who i refer) i was like yea we'll see
its sad how much we base success of beating you turds but he really had to do it. dave is right, he needs to win the east, win 9 games and just barely lose the east, or 8-4 beating UF and almost winning the east. also i have said, lose to tech and already head home.
this cocktail party is gonna have a lot of intrigue
its sad how much we base success of beating you turds but he really had to do it. dave is right, he needs to win the east, win 9 games and just barely lose the east, or 8-4 beating UF and almost winning the east. also i have said, lose to tech and already head home.
this cocktail party is gonna have a lot of intrigue
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