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Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:17 pm to finallyfastohio
Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:17 pm to finallyfastohio
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well it sounds like he can recruit if he's the coordinator
Is it really all that hard to recruit to OSU or UF?
You could probably do it. Well, on second thought.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:40 pm to finallyfastohio
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well it sounds like he can recruit if he's the coordinator
Actually RC's don't recruit. They pretty much manage the behind the scenes stuff...mailing letters, emails, faxes, arranging transportation and housing for visits, etc.
Most recruits never even meet the RC. At least that's how I understand it.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:48 pm to roadGator
Was at Tennessee for a while too.
Good recruiter. Terrible coach. He'll still have a tough time getting elite prospects from Florida to leave the SEC.
Good recruiter. Terrible coach. He'll still have a tough time getting elite prospects from Florida to leave the SEC.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:57 pm to Tennessee Jed
You'd think he's learn to coach the RB's after a while but he doesn't. The years he wasn't here during Meyer's tenure the RB's hardly EVER fumbled. Soon as he's back... Fumbling starts again.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:04 pm to gatorrocks
yep. blame the coaches for the fumbles
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:06 pm to finallyfastohio
Arian Foster was a fumbling Machine at Tennessee under Stan Drayton. Our running game was terrible while he was in Knoxville
Drayton could probably single handidly be held responsible for Arian Foster going undrafted.
If Foster leaves after junior year he's drafted in the first two rounds.
Goes as an undrafted free agent after 1 year under Drayton
Drayton could probably single handidly be held responsible for Arian Foster going undrafted.
If Foster leaves after junior year he's drafted in the first two rounds.
Goes as an undrafted free agent after 1 year under Drayton
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:06 pm to finallyfastohio
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yep. blame the coaches for the fumbles
OK, be happy you have him then and STFU about it.
No one, including UF fans gives two shiites.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:08 pm to roadGator
As Tennessee heads to Columbia, SC this weekend for another SEC showdown, the Gamecock defense—ranked first in the SEC for total defense—can seemingly rest easy when it comes to stopping the run.
Although Carolina’s rush defense is not its strength, Tennessee has struggled to generate even a portion of what it once used to.
Since the Vol backfield consists of the same tailbacks as last year, some have pointed to poor coaching—both from the top with Fulmer, but also to the man coaching the running backs himself, Stan Drayton.
It’s hard to imagine that just three years ago, Drayton was brought to Gainesville, FL to re-energize the Florida Gator rushing attack, bringing with him the reputation of a top-flight recruiter and players’ coach.
Now he sits at lame-duck Tennessee, waiting for a phone call for another job offer.
You see, just as things haven’t gone as planned at Tennessee, things didn’t work out so well for Drayton at Florida either.
Sure, he picked up a nice National Championship ring, but his relationship with Urban Meyer suffered, and his tailbacks were rarely used effectively.
Just like that, Drayton was on the move, his short stint at Florida barely noticed by the casual, non-SEC fan.
The rub came when Drayton—on his way out of town, to an SEC East rival, no less—decided to take a low blow at Meyer and the Gators, telling the Nashville Tennessean that Florida was not a place a good running back would want to go.
Drayton continued, "If you’re going to be a running backs coach, you want to be part of a system that involves the running back."
Coach Drayton has been eating his words ever since.
Through eight games, Tennessee has 908 total rushing yards, and the Vols are gaining only 3.7 yards per carry. Those paltry numbers place them 11th in the conference in rush offense.
This is not your Tennessee running attack of the past.
Once a haven for attacking, power running backs, over time, the Volunteer rush attack has become stagnant, predictable, and downright mediocre.
Certainly the Vols’ overall struggles have contributed to the lack of a running game, but the overwhelming decrease in production is alarming. Last season, Arian Foster ran for 85.4 yards a game and scored 12 touchdowns. Now he’s getting 50.3 yards per game, has zero touchdowns, and is speaking pterodactyl.
Meanwhile, the team Drayton left—well, the Gators are doing just fine running the ball.
In fact, the Gator running attack is second in the SEC with 196 yards per game, and the ridiculous 5.3 yards per carry Gator ball carriers are getting is tops in the conference. Their 19 rushing touchdowns are also first in the conference.
A comparison of the leading rushers for Tennessee and Florida is indicative of the change at both programs.
Arian Foster has 402 yards—well off his pace from last year—while Jeff Demps has 359 yards (remembering that Florida has played one fewer game than Tennessee). The difference? 50 additional carries for Foster.
Demps is averaging a ridiculous 11.9 yards per carry while Foster is getting 4.7 yards per carry—again, below his average from last season.
Florida’s other backs, Chris Rainey, Kestahn Moore, and Percy Harvin, all get more yards per carry than Tennessee’s backs—and combine for more yards as well.
All this while Emmanuel Moody continues to wait out injuries. Who knows if he’ll develop the inside running game the Gators have been lacking? If so, things could get ugly for Florida’s opponents.
For those who counter with the argument that Tebow gets so many of the Gators’ rushing yards, think again. This season, Tebow’s numbers are actually hurting the Gator rush attack statistically, as Tebow has only picked up only 227 yards on a meager 2.8 yards per carry thus far.
As for Drayton: It’s one thing to leave—but to badmouth the team that boosted your résumé, specifically taking shots at the running back position, is just plain stupid.
Drayton had to see the possibilities with Rainey, Harvin, and Moody, and even Demps, who was certainly on Florida’s recruiting radar when Drayton was still on board.
At the same time, surely Drayton saw the situation he was getting himself into at Tennessee. You have to wonder why he ever left for an East rival who recently hired a new offensive coordinator, Dave Clawson, most known for his pass-happy offense.
Sure, Clawson and Drayton worked together in the past, but has anyone ever checked the wins and losses when they were at Villanova? It wasn’t pretty.
Perhaps ego got in the way. If that’s the case, Drayton better lose his in the near future, as it seems almost a certainty now that he will be shopping for a new job since Tennessee could very well end up in the cellar of the East for the first time ever.
With the poor finish Tennessee is expected to have this year, it seems very unlikely that Big Phil will return—meaning a clean sweep of the assistants as well, and with that, perhaps Drayton’s last shot at an SEC program.
While coaching at two of the most prestigious SEC schools in two years, Stan Drayton has essentially failed miserably at both, and he trashed one team to the media—a no-no in the coaching industry.
So the question is: Where does Drayton go next?
Although Carolina’s rush defense is not its strength, Tennessee has struggled to generate even a portion of what it once used to.
Since the Vol backfield consists of the same tailbacks as last year, some have pointed to poor coaching—both from the top with Fulmer, but also to the man coaching the running backs himself, Stan Drayton.
It’s hard to imagine that just three years ago, Drayton was brought to Gainesville, FL to re-energize the Florida Gator rushing attack, bringing with him the reputation of a top-flight recruiter and players’ coach.
Now he sits at lame-duck Tennessee, waiting for a phone call for another job offer.
You see, just as things haven’t gone as planned at Tennessee, things didn’t work out so well for Drayton at Florida either.
Sure, he picked up a nice National Championship ring, but his relationship with Urban Meyer suffered, and his tailbacks were rarely used effectively.
Just like that, Drayton was on the move, his short stint at Florida barely noticed by the casual, non-SEC fan.
The rub came when Drayton—on his way out of town, to an SEC East rival, no less—decided to take a low blow at Meyer and the Gators, telling the Nashville Tennessean that Florida was not a place a good running back would want to go.
Drayton continued, "If you’re going to be a running backs coach, you want to be part of a system that involves the running back."
Coach Drayton has been eating his words ever since.
Through eight games, Tennessee has 908 total rushing yards, and the Vols are gaining only 3.7 yards per carry. Those paltry numbers place them 11th in the conference in rush offense.
This is not your Tennessee running attack of the past.
Once a haven for attacking, power running backs, over time, the Volunteer rush attack has become stagnant, predictable, and downright mediocre.
Certainly the Vols’ overall struggles have contributed to the lack of a running game, but the overwhelming decrease in production is alarming. Last season, Arian Foster ran for 85.4 yards a game and scored 12 touchdowns. Now he’s getting 50.3 yards per game, has zero touchdowns, and is speaking pterodactyl.
Meanwhile, the team Drayton left—well, the Gators are doing just fine running the ball.
In fact, the Gator running attack is second in the SEC with 196 yards per game, and the ridiculous 5.3 yards per carry Gator ball carriers are getting is tops in the conference. Their 19 rushing touchdowns are also first in the conference.
A comparison of the leading rushers for Tennessee and Florida is indicative of the change at both programs.
Arian Foster has 402 yards—well off his pace from last year—while Jeff Demps has 359 yards (remembering that Florida has played one fewer game than Tennessee). The difference? 50 additional carries for Foster.
Demps is averaging a ridiculous 11.9 yards per carry while Foster is getting 4.7 yards per carry—again, below his average from last season.
Florida’s other backs, Chris Rainey, Kestahn Moore, and Percy Harvin, all get more yards per carry than Tennessee’s backs—and combine for more yards as well.
All this while Emmanuel Moody continues to wait out injuries. Who knows if he’ll develop the inside running game the Gators have been lacking? If so, things could get ugly for Florida’s opponents.
For those who counter with the argument that Tebow gets so many of the Gators’ rushing yards, think again. This season, Tebow’s numbers are actually hurting the Gator rush attack statistically, as Tebow has only picked up only 227 yards on a meager 2.8 yards per carry thus far.
As for Drayton: It’s one thing to leave—but to badmouth the team that boosted your résumé, specifically taking shots at the running back position, is just plain stupid.
Drayton had to see the possibilities with Rainey, Harvin, and Moody, and even Demps, who was certainly on Florida’s recruiting radar when Drayton was still on board.
At the same time, surely Drayton saw the situation he was getting himself into at Tennessee. You have to wonder why he ever left for an East rival who recently hired a new offensive coordinator, Dave Clawson, most known for his pass-happy offense.
Sure, Clawson and Drayton worked together in the past, but has anyone ever checked the wins and losses when they were at Villanova? It wasn’t pretty.
Perhaps ego got in the way. If that’s the case, Drayton better lose his in the near future, as it seems almost a certainty now that he will be shopping for a new job since Tennessee could very well end up in the cellar of the East for the first time ever.
With the poor finish Tennessee is expected to have this year, it seems very unlikely that Big Phil will return—meaning a clean sweep of the assistants as well, and with that, perhaps Drayton’s last shot at an SEC program.
While coaching at two of the most prestigious SEC schools in two years, Stan Drayton has essentially failed miserably at both, and he trashed one team to the media—a no-no in the coaching industry.
So the question is: Where does Drayton go next?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:12 pm to Tennessee Jed
well he's a wr's coach now.
never seen an article written like that on a position coach lol
never seen an article written like that on a position coach lol
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:15 pm to finallyfastohio
WR coach huh? Good luck with that.
Coaching Experience (from his bio on gatorzone.com)
2010-Present Florida (Running Backs/Recruiting Coordinator)
2009 Syracuse (Running Backs)
2008 Tennessee (Running Backs)
Jan. 2005-2007 Florida (Running Backs)
2004-Jan. 2005 Mississippi State (Running Backs)
2001-03 Green Bay Packers (Offensive Quality Control/Asst. Special Teams)
2000 Bowling Green State (Running Backs/Special Teams Coach)
1996-2000 Villanova (Running Backs)
1995 Pennsylvania (Director of Football Operations/Running Backs Asst.)
1994 Eastern Michigan (Graduate Assistant)
1993 Allegheny (Pa.) College (Running Backs)
Coaching Experience (from his bio on gatorzone.com)
2010-Present Florida (Running Backs/Recruiting Coordinator)
2009 Syracuse (Running Backs)
2008 Tennessee (Running Backs)
Jan. 2005-2007 Florida (Running Backs)
2004-Jan. 2005 Mississippi State (Running Backs)
2001-03 Green Bay Packers (Offensive Quality Control/Asst. Special Teams)
2000 Bowling Green State (Running Backs/Special Teams Coach)
1996-2000 Villanova (Running Backs)
1995 Pennsylvania (Director of Football Operations/Running Backs Asst.)
1994 Eastern Michigan (Graduate Assistant)
1993 Allegheny (Pa.) College (Running Backs)
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:16 pm to finallyfastohio
Lol @ ohiya state
Sucks for yall
Sucks for yall
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:19 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Tennessee Jed
Wow! That article rips him to shreads.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:21 pm to roadGator
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It will be a win in the long run.
Yea, u keep saying that. Urban could not keep the Gators up, why do u think a new coaching staff who has lost players, recruits.......Coaches will get back up. Fla is in for the long haul. Watch out for FSU, UCF, Mia and a lot others that recruit Fla. It ain't gona be a cake walk wth an unproven head coach and so many pro coaches..........
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:23 pm to roadGator
Damn.. They need to come up witha: CoachFacts.com
He gota lot of previous owners.. in a very short time.
He gota lot of previous owners.. in a very short time.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:27 pm to Bobby Moore
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Watch out for FSU, UCF, Mia
LOL. FSU and Miami have new coaching staffs too.
UCF is UCF. They are never going to compete for kids the big three want consistently.
What players has this coaching staff lost? We lost a couple of recruits during the transition but that is expected in year one. The new coach bounce doesn't happen until year two when they've had time to build relationships.
Who said it was going to be a cake walk. Your post is weird.
I think you are one of the gator haters and that may explain your strange post if correct.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 4:29 pm to DruNnyc
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He gota lot of previous owners..
He does seem to last about as long in one place as I would with Bella.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 5:44 pm to finallyfastohio
Another way for Muschamp to upgrade the staff. He recruits that's it. He's an awful position coach. Just ask Tenn fans. Every UF fan was pissed off when Addazio hired him back.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 5:50 pm to gatordmb89
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Another way for Muschamp to upgrade the staff. He recruits that's it. He's an awful position coach. Just ask Tenn fans. Every UF fan was pissed off when Addazio hired him back.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 7:24 pm to finallyfastohio
Will he be required to wear a queer looking sweater vest?
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