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re: Holy Zion Church of Deliverance

Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6619 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:05 pm to
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Was this in the German newspaper?
Weak.

And lame.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:06 pm to
If they thought the funds could never be traced. The NCAA does not have the power to make someone give them the records to their funds. Cecil Newton gladly handed over his own financial records but didn't see the need to reveal where the funds for his church rebuilding project came from - you know, the ONE set of records that would PROVE if he took money from Auburn or not. But now that the FBI is involved they can easily force Cecil to fork over the records.

The only thing I can think of is maybe they never expected it to get so far that the Feds would become involved.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66127 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:09 pm to
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when did Cam commit? wasn't it around xmas time in 2009? does it take 6 months to deliver $200,000?


God you would suck as a rogue booster.

Commitment does not equal "yours" until the ink is on paper. You dribble some good faith money during the process, a little more at commit and funnel the rest after signing. You don't just throw a duffel of bills in a farm to market ditch after first contact you know...



Tried that. F Adrian Peterson.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33977 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Commitment does not equal "yours" until the ink is on paper. You dribble some good faith money during the process, a little more at commit and funnel the rest after signing. You don't just throw a duffel of bills in a farm to market ditch after first contact you know...
ok, so take out 6 months, and change it to 4 months


I was not aware up until this thread that the money was coming in installments. however, I still don't see why they would wait for the last payment to begin construction
Posted by ant111
Member since Sep 2006
357 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:16 pm to
Lets all go have service there...oh wait you still cant do that...I wonder why with all the money he got >>>>>???? Don't let facts get in your way!
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 8:18 pm
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

RollTide1987
Holy Zion Church of Deliverance
If they thought the funds could never be traced. The NCAA does not have the power to make someone give them the records to their funds. Cecil Newton gladly handed over his own financial records but didn't see the need to reveal where the funds for his church rebuilding project came from - you know, the ONE set of records that would PROVE if he took money from Auburn or not. But now that the FBI is involved they can easily force Cecil to fork over the records.

The only thing I can think of is maybe they never expected it to get so far that the Feds would become involved.


Yah, he must be lying.

As a rival fan, you have insinuated everyone around AU has been lying. But ole MSU is clean as a whistle.

Logical.

LINK

quote:

Cecil Newton said the family received a letter from the NCAA "about a month ago" asking for financial statements. He said he submitted bank statements and records for the church where he is pastor, Holy Zion Center of Deliverance in Newnan, Ga., along with other records.


Facts and stuff.
Posted by wardamnamerica
Member since Sep 2010
564 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:22 pm to
So you think a guy is vain enough to ask for 200k and then turn around and spend it on his church. Ya`ll got issues.


Hes probably hiding it in a swiss bank account.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:23 pm to
And yet he failed to provide information on where the money came from. He said so himself. I do not have a direct link to a quote but I know I have seen it. He said that there was no need to share that information.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7199 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:24 pm to
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Funneling money through the church is the oldest play in the book.


Ask USC
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

And yet he failed to provide information on where the money came from.
if it shows up gradually as cash in the collection plate, how DOES he explain that?
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

RollTide1987
Holy Zion Church of Deliverance
And yet he failed to provide information on where the money came from. He said so himself. I do not have a direct link to a quote but I know I have seen it. He said that there was no need to share that information.



Make up your fricking tard mind.

First, it was he never submitted his financial records for the church.

Now, it's because he didn't release who made donations.

You don't think the NCAA having the financial records in July, with all this money coming in from December to June would raise a couple of flags? You don't think if that all of a sudden he had a huge spike in his bank account, THAT HE PROVIDED, that the NCAA would say something? You don't think the compliance office at Auburn would look into this KNOWING about the investigation in JANUARY.

No, I don't actually think you think at all.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:32 pm to
I said:

quote:

...but didn't see the need to reveal where the funds for his church rebuilding project came from - you know, the ONE set of records that would PROVE if he took money from Auburn or not.


and


quote:

And yet he failed to provide information on where the money came from.



I believe I have kept my facts straight. You can believe what you want to believe, but if this were a non-issue I'm sure the FBI would not have gotten involved.
Posted by wardamnamerica
Member since Sep 2010
564 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:35 pm to
How do you trace all funds at a church???? People put cash in collection plates. An aubie booster could of put 10k in cash and we`d never get caught. Yeah 10k would be obvious, but he could of put in a grand a week.

Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

if this were a non-issue I'm sure the FBI would not have gotten involved.
its been widely reported that the fbi is involved to speak with john bond on the issue on "student athletes" being shopped.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

How do you trace all funds at a church???? People put cash in collection plates. An aubie booster could of put 10k in cash and we`d never get caught. Yeah 10k would be obvious, but he could of put in a grand a week.


If there's a way then I am sure the FBI can find it. I am no expert but I'm sure there is a way to track large amounts of money moving between hands.
Posted by Jethro
Central Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
22 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:39 pm to
Wow, some of you guys are impressive. You read what some Joe Blow writes that he "heard" from someone, that heard from someone and figure this whole thing out. You guys are my heros
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

If there's a way then I am sure the FBI can find it.
i definitely have faith in the FBI.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:42 pm to
The same could be said about you. I was defending you assholes all the way up until last night. As of right now, there is enough information out there that makes me think that Cecil Newton pulled a fast one. I only know what I read and I read crap from all over the internet - message board innuendo and legitimate media outlets. I have read the opinion of those from the Auburn camp and I have read stuff from Fox Sports and ESPN. Right now all Auburn columnists appear to be doing is sheltering the flock from the bolts of lightning that are descending from the sky.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:43 pm to
I think Auburn needs to change it's mascot:

Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I was defending you assholes all the way up until last night
can i ask what the new info was that came out last night that convinced you otherwise? the joe schad report is the only "new" news since then. even the talking heads on espn are defending cam through today saying theres nothing substantial.
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