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re: How many SEC teams would McElroy start for?

Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Crimsoncutie98
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:28 am to
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His avatar is gone now


Yes!!!
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:31 am to
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Posted by arwicklu
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:41 am to
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How many SEC teams would McElroy start for?
Discuss.


Last year he would not have started for many.

This year he would start for at least half. The guy threw 17 TDs and 4 INTs. He doesn't make mistakes. He threw for over 60%. He gets you a couple hundred yards most games and manages the game.

He'd start at for certain:

Bama

Ole Miss (They could have won the west without their train wreck QB last year)

Miss St. (They have been sending out awful QBs)

Georgia (They have nobody or Cox wouldn't have played last year)

Tennessee (They have nobody)

Vandy (Same)

Kentucky (Same)

Might Start:

Auburn (Gus probably want to go with a dual threat guy)

South Carolina (Garcia has been there but he hasn't shown much. They should be better)

Wouldn't start:

LSU (parallel move - Jefferson statistically is almost the same)

Florida (high on the Brant)

Arkansas (Ryan is an NFL first rounder)
Posted by Big Fat
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:43 am to
Nice avatar.

McElroy - 1 or 2 max.
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:44 am to
I was banned for 10 minutes
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:44 am to
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Kentucky (Same)


You are wrong in saying that we have "nobody".

We have two very highly rated quarterbacks. They were just freshmen this season. One was redshirted. The other was forced to play before he was ready because of Hartline's injury.
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:45 am to
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I was banned for 10 minutes


Posted by Dave Matthews
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:46 am to
Unjustly...
Posted by BDS
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:47 am to
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You are wrong in saying that we have "nobody". We have two very highly rated quarterbacks. They were just freshmen this season. One was redshirted. The other was forced to play before he was ready because of Hartline's injury.


Who are Kentucky's QB's? Just wondering.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:49 am to
I've been one to bang on McElroy quite a bit on this board, but he played in a spread in HS so it's not like he couldn't play in a shotgun spread type offense. I watched him a lot his senior year, and he can throw the ball all over the field. It seems like Saban is definitely in his head and he won't let it loose because he knows Saban will cut him off at the nuts, plus there's no need to force anything with those RB's.

That being said, he would start at every SEC school besides these....

Florida- Brantley
Georgia- Murray
LSU- Jefferson
Arkansas- Mallet
Posted by arwicklu
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:49 am to
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You are wrong in saying that we have "nobody".

We have two very highly rated quarterbacks. They were just freshmen this season. One was redshirted. The other was forced to play before he was ready because of Hartline's injury.


Highly rated doesn't make them somebody. Star Jackson and AJ McCarron were highly rated but at this point they're nobody. They've done nothing on the field and you certainly wouldn't put them in front of a solid QB who's won in high pressure situations. A lot of what he does is manage the game and not make mistakes, but in games like Auburn and Florida he actually was called upon to win the game.

That being said when you've got 2 highly rated freshmen, you've got nobody. Would you like to bet money on how they'll turn out?
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:50 am to
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Who are Kentucky's QB's? Just wondering.


Morgan Newton, the #6 QB in the nation from the '09 class and Ryan Mossakowski, the #25 QB in the nation from the same class. Both were 4 stars coming out of high school.
This post was edited on 1/18/10 at 10:51 am
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:52 am to
^Newton is solid, but I don't know much about the other kid.
Posted by arwicklu
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:52 am to
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Morgan Newton, the #6 QB in the nation from the '09 class and Ryan Mossakowski, the #25 QB in the nation from the same class. Both were 4 stars coming out of high school.


Bama has plenty of QB's with high ratings coming out of HS next year. Jackson, McCarron, and Simms all are up there. But I still don't want them starting in front of 3 star McElroy.
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:58 am to
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That being said when you've got 2 highly rated freshmen, you've got nobody. Would you like to bet money on how they'll turn out?


At least one of them will turn out to be a good QB. Both have good arms.

Newton saw a lot of playing time this season, though he wasn't ready because he was expecting to be redshirted. He's a very mobile QB, and at 6'4" 220, he's got great size. He was Mr. Football in Indiana his senior year and the Gatorade Indiana Player Of The Year.

He broke 10 school records, eight of which were held by former NFL and Purdue quarterback Mark Herrmann. He threw for 1,938 yards and 22 touchdowns as a senior, along with 1,664 rushing yards and 26 touchdowns, accounting for 3,602 yards total offense and 48 TDs.

And the kid graduated with honors.
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:03 am to
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^Newton is solid, but I don't know much about the other kid.


He's out of Centennial High in Frisco, TX. He's 6'4" 203. A little slower than Newton, but has good feet and one hell of an arm, though he's coming off of shoulder surgery. He has great field vision.

Threw for 3,029 yards and 19 touchdowns, rushed for 227 yards on 71 rushes for 7 more TD's.
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:05 am to
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Bama has plenty of QB's with high ratings coming out of HS next year. Jackson, McCarron, and Simms all are up there. But I still don't want them starting in front of 3 star McElroy.


Well, ideally, you don't want any freshman QB starting in the SEC. McElroy is a good game manager, but I'd take a Jr. Andre Woodson over a Jr. McElroy any day.
This post was edited on 1/18/10 at 11:05 am
Posted by DB2
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:05 am to
Vandy
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Posted by Dave Matthews
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:05 am to
CatFan81 =
Posted by arwicklu
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:06 am to
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At least one of them will turn out to be a good QB. Both have good arms.

Newton saw a lot of playing time this season, though he wasn't ready because he was expecting to be redshirted. He's a very mobile QB, and at 6'4" 220, he's got great size. He was Mr. Football in Indiana his senior year and the Gatorade Indiana Player Of The Year.

He broke 10 school records, eight of which were held by former NFL and Purdue quarterback Mark Herrmann. He threw for 1,938 yards and 22 touchdowns as a senior, along with 1,664 rushing yards and 26 touchdowns, accounting for 3,602 yards total offense and 48 TDs.

And the kid graduated with honors.


QB is the biggest bust potential position there is.

GMac took down Chase Daniels Texas records. Texas records are a much bigger deal than Indiana. Most thought he'd never take a snap at Bama.

Having 4 star QB's is great but it just doesn't mean anything. Star Jackson is going to transfer because his 4 stars will never see the field.

You're basically banking on a kid that threw for less than 2000 yards in high school. I understand he has talent but at this point I'd still say you have nothing until proven otherwise.
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