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My fellow Bama fans....
Posted on 1/9/10 at 2:33 am
Posted on 1/9/10 at 2:33 am
Lets start a 'grassroots' movement to abandon this '13' crap. I'm sure I will get flamed for this, but we have 8 legit, indisputable NC's. That alone puts us in the upper stratosphere of the sport. The 1941 claim is just embarrassing, and although I think the others are legit(and I know we were robbed in 66), claiming these 'pre major poll' wins just gives flame bait to other teams. Hell, Auburn could claim multiple titles by that criteria. I am very happy with 8 NC's, I've seen 4 myself(how many fans can say that?). I just wish the '13' charade would go away, it's embarrassing.
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 2:36 am to northshorebamaman
I concur.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 2:58 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I also concur...
Posted on 1/9/10 at 2:59 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Alabama is one of the top 5 teams in the history of college football. I have no idea why the athletic department feels we have to inflate our accomplishments. Our record stands for itself.
8 NC's. Has your team done this?
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8 NC's. Has your team done this?
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 3:28 am to northshorebamaman
Don't let the rivals' jealous outrage get to you. If there's any title Alabama should abandon it's 1941. Other than that, it's hard to dispute we don't deserve those claims.
Trust me, the only reason they have a problem with it is because they didn't finish 10-0 with Rose Bowl victories on a consistent basis. If they were in our shoes, they'd claim them too. Just ask Notre Dame (3 of their 11 titles were claimed prior to the poll era), USC (4 of their 11 titles were claimed prior to the poll era), etc. etc.
Heck, Georgia claimed a title for 1927 and they finished 9-1 and of course didn't play in the Rose Bowl!
But saying the pre-AP/UPI titles don't count is like saying the pre SECCG titles don't count.
Trust me, the only reason they have a problem with it is because they didn't finish 10-0 with Rose Bowl victories on a consistent basis. If they were in our shoes, they'd claim them too. Just ask Notre Dame (3 of their 11 titles were claimed prior to the poll era), USC (4 of their 11 titles were claimed prior to the poll era), etc. etc.
Heck, Georgia claimed a title for 1927 and they finished 9-1 and of course didn't play in the Rose Bowl!
But saying the pre-AP/UPI titles don't count is like saying the pre SECCG titles don't count.
This post was edited on 1/9/10 at 3:34 am
Posted on 1/9/10 at 3:29 am to BradPitt
Nuff said
1925 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1930 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1934 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1945 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1961 11-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1966 11-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1979 12-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1992 13-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
2009 14-0 Citi BCS Bowl Champions
1925 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1930 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1934 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1945 10-0 Rose Bowl Champions
1961 11-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1966 11-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1979 12-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
1992 13-0 Sugar Bowl Champions
2009 14-0 Citi BCS Bowl Champions
Posted on 1/9/10 at 3:33 am to northshorebamaman
The undefeated Rose Bowl teams deserve recognition. We aren't the only school to claim Titles from back then. However we are the only team to catch shite for it.
I absolutely HATE 1941 and I can not stand that it is listed. That is complete bullshite.
I absolutely HATE 1941 and I can not stand that it is listed. That is complete bullshite.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 3:46 am to bamaboy87
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I absolutely HATE 1941 and I can not stand that it is listed. That is complete bullshite.
I think the only reason it was claimed "retroactively" is only because we were awarded the title by a more respectable poll than the others and we felt snubbed for 1937, 1945, 1966, and 1977.
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However we are the only team to catch shite for it.
And notice how it only comes from the fans whose teams weren't even relevant during that era.
This post was edited on 1/9/10 at 3:50 am
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:22 am to BradPitt
:burninggot12shirt:
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:29 am to northshorebamaman
I got no problem with it. 8 is right. The school has got to admit it since they are still claiming now 13
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:47 am to northshorebamaman
So our football history from 1892-1935 doesn't count?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:49 am to northshorebamaman
Nope! First why try and why would you want to do that. Any number is contrived and by doing so you just slap the great players of the past in the face. They deserve to be recognized by our own program just as much as the 2009-10 team.
Just because the championships happened before you were born doesn't change the fact that it happened.
Just because the championships happened before you were born doesn't change the fact that it happened.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:52 am to Schwaaz
this thread is absurd and so are each one of y'all that wants to agree.
i UNDERSTAND the sentiment... really, i do. you want to shake ALL of the people that want to discredit our past accomplishments...
AS i've heard over and over on this board when this topic gets brought up... I DON'T GIVE A DAMN if these other fans don't recognize our NATIONAL TITLES that were PRE-AP poll.
to hell with people and their ignorant laughing at us-ness. we DID earn at least a claimable 12. if you wanna talk to another fan... sure, always start with saying we have 8 AP NC's... but then when they see you as rational, make sure to mention to them that we have more NC's, but the AP just doesn't recognize them BECAUSE they PRE-DATE the AP.
i UNDERSTAND the sentiment... really, i do. you want to shake ALL of the people that want to discredit our past accomplishments...
AS i've heard over and over on this board when this topic gets brought up... I DON'T GIVE A DAMN if these other fans don't recognize our NATIONAL TITLES that were PRE-AP poll.
to hell with people and their ignorant laughing at us-ness. we DID earn at least a claimable 12. if you wanna talk to another fan... sure, always start with saying we have 8 AP NC's... but then when they see you as rational, make sure to mention to them that we have more NC's, but the AP just doesn't recognize them BECAUSE they PRE-DATE the AP.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:53 am to Schwaaz
If y'all claim 13, can we claim 2? 
Somebody tell me what happened in 1941. I know it had something to do with Miss State, but that's about it.
Somebody tell me what happened in 1941. I know it had something to do with Miss State, but that's about it.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:00 am to northshorebamaman
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I just wish the '13' charade would go away, it's embarrassing.
You'll need to start with The Official Alabama Athletic Web Site.
BTW, I agree with your post. Champions with a rich tradition of excellence should not fluff the stats as it cheapens their accomplishments.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:22 am to northshorebamaman
Wasn't the Rose Bowl the de facto National Title game in the early 1900's?
I've got a problem with the 1941 claim, not with the others. To limit National Championships to AP titles is to act like college football did not exist prior to the AP.
I've got a problem with the 1941 claim, not with the others. To limit National Championships to AP titles is to act like college football did not exist prior to the AP.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:29 am to 87BAMAGRAD
So when they start an 8 team playoff then all the BCS and AP Championships will need to be negated. Right?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:37 am to northshorebamaman
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Lets start a 'grassroots' movement to abandon this '13' crap. I'm sure I will get flamed for this, but we have 8 legit, indisputable NC's. That alone puts us in the upper stratosphere of the sport
I agree whole heartedly
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:47 am to northshorebamaman
Last year i went to the College Football Data Warehouse. The UofA was listed as national champions in 17 different years. Now as we all know, many of those years we were not the only one listed. The CFDW listed every team that was awarded a national championship and who awarded it. This year we are listed in 11 different years. Everybody loves to rewrite history. With eleven it left us one behind Notre Dame, go figure. Now we weren't the only one to have AWARDED national championships disappear. But as far as i can tell we did lose the most.
Here is my take on this whole mess. I read the article about the AD that started counting 12. He did not magically invent these championships, they were there all the time. All he done was to start recognizing them. I really don't care about what fans think about this matter. Haters are going to hate, weak minded are going to be pulled in both directions and apologists are gonna feel good about agreeing with the haters. What chaps my arse is when a 'so called' legitimate entity wants to rewrite history and sell it as fact. It doesn't matter if the Flat Rock Times Daily Redneck awarded a national championship trophy. Would it be one i would brag about, no. But don't try to tell me it never happened.
There, i feel much better now.
Here is my take on this whole mess. I read the article about the AD that started counting 12. He did not magically invent these championships, they were there all the time. All he done was to start recognizing them. I really don't care about what fans think about this matter. Haters are going to hate, weak minded are going to be pulled in both directions and apologists are gonna feel good about agreeing with the haters. What chaps my arse is when a 'so called' legitimate entity wants to rewrite history and sell it as fact. It doesn't matter if the Flat Rock Times Daily Redneck awarded a national championship trophy. Would it be one i would brag about, no. But don't try to tell me it never happened.
There, i feel much better now.
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