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Serious question/poll re: Bama's claimed NC
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:34 pm
For Bama fans only: how many of you believe all the NC Bama claims are legit?
Curious.
Curious.
14
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:37 pm to Coonass
the correct answer is 11 and that 1941 is complete bullshite
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:37 pm to Coonass
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:44 pm to Coonass
This subject has always fascinated me.
Paul W. Bryant died in January 1983, believing that Bama had won only 6 National Championships, and that he was the Head Coach for every damn one of them.
The good folks at UA took the opportunity after his death to piss all over that record of individual excellence by 'retroactively' claiming titles that didn't exist at the time the games were actually played.
Fact: there was no such thing as a "National Champion" in major college football before the Associated Press began its poll of sportswriters in 1936.
Jeezus, you have a great history already, and no one comes close in the SEC in the number of LEGITIMATE championships - both NCs and CCs.
Why do you assclowns feel compelled to pump yourselves up even more? Feelings of inadequacy, much?
Paul W. Bryant died in January 1983, believing that Bama had won only 6 National Championships, and that he was the Head Coach for every damn one of them.
The good folks at UA took the opportunity after his death to piss all over that record of individual excellence by 'retroactively' claiming titles that didn't exist at the time the games were actually played.
Fact: there was no such thing as a "National Champion" in major college football before the Associated Press began its poll of sportswriters in 1936.
Jeezus, you have a great history already, and no one comes close in the SEC in the number of LEGITIMATE championships - both NCs and CCs.
Why do you assclowns feel compelled to pump yourselves up even more? Feelings of inadequacy, much?
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:51 pm to Coonass
I swap 41 for 66.
There are 12
There are 12
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:51 pm to Coonass
All of them are legit.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 9:00 pm to Coonass
I personally claim 11.
1941 is very busch league of us.
1941 is very busch league of us.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 9:36 pm to Coonass
We got royally screwed out of a few national titles in football, but so did alot of other teams back in the day. The correct answer to the question is no doubt 7 National titles. 3 IN THE 60'S, 3 IN THE 70'S AND 1992. That would be 6 AP national titles and 1 UPI national title. This is not mythical, these are since the ap up inception in 1953 if i am not mistaken. Roll tide!!!! 
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:06 pm to Coonass
Of the 12 we acknowledge, 1941 is the only one I consider bogus. I don't complain though, because of 1966.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:48 pm to Coonass
Because you people bitch about this SO much, I'm no longer claiming 12. I'm claiming 25:
1
1925
10-0-0
Angelo Louisa
Bill Libby
Billingsley Report
Boand System
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
Houlgate System
James Howell
Jim Koger
Mel Smith
National Championship Foundation
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Ray Bryne
2
1926
9-0-1
1st-N-Goal
Billingsley Report
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Mel Smith
National Championship Foundation
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Ray Bryne
3
1930
10-0-0
Bob Kirlin
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Mel Smith
Parke Davis
Ray Bryne
Sagarin Ratings
4
1934
10-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Bill Libby
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Dunkel System
Houlgate System
James Howell
Mel Smith
Poling System
Ray Bryne
Williamson System
5
1936
8-0-1
Cliff Morgan
Mel Smith
Ray Bryne
6
1937
9-1-0
Ray Bryne
7
1941
9-2-0
Houlgate System
8
1945
10-0-0
Cliff Morgan
National Championship Foundation
Ray Bryne
9
1950
9-2-0
Bob Kirlin
10
1961
11-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Angelo Louisa
Associated Press
Bill Libby
Billingsley Report
Bob Royce
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
College Football Researchers Association
College Football USA
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Earl Jessen
Edward Litkenhous
Football News
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Jeff Self
Jim Koger
Massy Ratings
Mel Smith
Montgomery Full Season Championship
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Sagarin Ratings
Soren Sorensen
The Fleming System
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
Williamson System
11
1962
10-1-0
Loren Maxwell
Montgomery Full Season Championship
12
1963
9-2-0
Jim Koger
13
1964
10-1-0
Angelo Louisa
Associated Press
Bob Royce
Clyde Berryman
College Football USA
Edward Litkenhous
Montgomery Full Season Championship
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
14
1965
9-1-1
1st-N-Goal
Associated Press
Bob Kirlin
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Football Writers Association of America
Jim Koger
Massy Ratings
National Championship Foundation
Patrick Premo
15
1966
11-0-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
Earl Jessen
National Championship Foundation
Soren Sorensen
16
1973
11-1-0
Bob Royce
Clyde Berryman
Edward Litkenhous
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
17
1974
11-1-0
Washington Touchdown Club
18
1975
11-1-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Bob Kirlin
Matthews Grid Ratings
19
1977
11-1-0
Bob Kirlin
College Football Researchers Association
20
1978
11-1-0
1st-N-Goal
Annual Football Predictions
Associated Press
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Helms Athletic Foundation
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
New York Daily News
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
21
1979
12-0-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Annual Football Predictions
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Bob Kirlin
Bob Royce
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
College and Pro Football Newsweekly
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Football News
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Jeff Self
Loren Maxwell
Massy Ratings
Matthews Grid Ratings
Mel Smith
Montgomery Full Season Championship
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
New York Times
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Sagarin Ratings
The Sporting News
United Press International
22
1980
10-2-0
Annual Football Predictions
Montgomery Full Season Championship
23
1991
11-1-0
Annual Football Predictions
24
1992
13-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Angelo Louisa
Annual Football Predictions
ARGH Power Ratings
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Century Football Index
Clyde Berryman
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
DKC Ratings
Dunkel System
Football News
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Gupta Power Ratings
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
James Howell
James Whalen
Jeff Self
Massy Ratings
Matthews Grid Ratings
National Championship Foundation
New York Times
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Soren Sorensen
Sparks Achievement Ratings
Sports Illustrated
Steve Eck
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The College Football Statistics Quarterly
The Fleming System
The Sporting News
United Press International/National Football Foundation
USA Today/CNN
Washington Touchdown Club
25
1994
12-1-0
Annual Football Predictions
Championship Years
So frick all y'all.
1
1925
10-0-0
Angelo Louisa
Bill Libby
Billingsley Report
Boand System
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
Houlgate System
James Howell
Jim Koger
Mel Smith
National Championship Foundation
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Ray Bryne
2
1926
9-0-1
1st-N-Goal
Billingsley Report
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Mel Smith
National Championship Foundation
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Ray Bryne
3
1930
10-0-0
Bob Kirlin
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Mel Smith
Parke Davis
Ray Bryne
Sagarin Ratings
4
1934
10-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Bill Libby
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Dunkel System
Houlgate System
James Howell
Mel Smith
Poling System
Ray Bryne
Williamson System
5
1936
8-0-1
Cliff Morgan
Mel Smith
Ray Bryne
6
1937
9-1-0
Ray Bryne
7
1941
9-2-0
Houlgate System
8
1945
10-0-0
Cliff Morgan
National Championship Foundation
Ray Bryne
9
1950
9-2-0
Bob Kirlin
10
1961
11-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Angelo Louisa
Associated Press
Bill Libby
Billingsley Report
Bob Royce
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
College Football Researchers Association
College Football USA
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Earl Jessen
Edward Litkenhous
Football News
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Jeff Self
Jim Koger
Massy Ratings
Mel Smith
Montgomery Full Season Championship
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Sagarin Ratings
Soren Sorensen
The Fleming System
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
Williamson System
11
1962
10-1-0
Loren Maxwell
Montgomery Full Season Championship
12
1963
9-2-0
Jim Koger
13
1964
10-1-0
Angelo Louisa
Associated Press
Bob Royce
Clyde Berryman
College Football USA
Edward Litkenhous
Montgomery Full Season Championship
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
14
1965
9-1-1
1st-N-Goal
Associated Press
Bob Kirlin
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Football Writers Association of America
Jim Koger
Massy Ratings
National Championship Foundation
Patrick Premo
15
1966
11-0-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
Earl Jessen
National Championship Foundation
Soren Sorensen
16
1973
11-1-0
Bob Royce
Clyde Berryman
Edward Litkenhous
United Press International
Washington Touchdown Club
17
1974
11-1-0
Washington Touchdown Club
18
1975
11-1-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Bob Kirlin
Matthews Grid Ratings
19
1977
11-1-0
Bob Kirlin
College Football Researchers Association
20
1978
11-1-0
1st-N-Goal
Annual Football Predictions
Associated Press
Century Football Index
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Helms Athletic Foundation
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
New York Daily News
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
21
1979
12-0-0
ARGH Power Ratings
Annual Football Predictions
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Bob Kirlin
Bob Royce
Century Football Index
Cliff Morgan
Clyde Berryman
College and Pro Football Newsweekly
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Football News
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
Helms Athletic Foundation
James Howell
Jeff Self
Loren Maxwell
Massy Ratings
Matthews Grid Ratings
Mel Smith
Montgomery Full Season Championship
National Championship Foundation
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
New York Times
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Poling System
Sagarin Ratings
The Sporting News
United Press International
22
1980
10-2-0
Annual Football Predictions
Montgomery Full Season Championship
23
1991
11-1-0
Annual Football Predictions
24
1992
13-0-0
1st-N-Goal
Angelo Louisa
Annual Football Predictions
ARGH Power Ratings
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Century Football Index
Clyde Berryman
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
DKC Ratings
Dunkel System
Football News
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
Gupta Power Ratings
Harry DeVold
Harry Frye
James Howell
James Whalen
Jeff Self
Massy Ratings
Matthews Grid Ratings
National Championship Foundation
New York Times
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Soren Sorensen
Sparks Achievement Ratings
Sports Illustrated
Steve Eck
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The College Football Statistics Quarterly
The Fleming System
The Sporting News
United Press International/National Football Foundation
USA Today/CNN
Washington Touchdown Club
25
1994
12-1-0
Annual Football Predictions
Championship Years
So frick all y'all.
This post was edited on 12/4/09 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/4/09 at 11:56 pm to Coonass
quote:
Serious question/poll re: Bama's claimed NC
For Bama fans only: how many of you believe all the NC Bama claims are legit?
Curious.
Sixteen! Count 'em.
Total championship selections from major selectors by school
LINK
This post was edited on 12/5/09 at 12:01 am
Posted on 12/5/09 at 12:10 am to Coonass
I'm just happy that we've had enough history to debate in a 7 page thread. 
No matter how many MNC trophies you take away, we'll still have more than anyone else in the SEC... more SEC titles, more bowl wins, more 10+ win seasons, and a winning record vs all other SEC teams.
Life is good
No matter how many MNC trophies you take away, we'll still have more than anyone else in the SEC... more SEC titles, more bowl wins, more 10+ win seasons, and a winning record vs all other SEC teams.
Life is good
Posted on 12/5/09 at 12:47 pm to Coonass
My sycophant family members and I have extremely heated discussions about this during every holiday season. They always obfuscate the point at issue by claiming that other teams claim national titles that are questionable. THAT POINT IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION.
The claimed national titles versus the unclaimed national title argument doesn't work, because it doesn't even out in the end.
To be honest, no one would really give a rats arse about how many national titles Bama won if Bama fans would not flaunt their "national titles" in the face of their opponents.
The modern era of football does not owe any debt of gratitude to Bama. Football in the south is not dependent on Bama's success. The SEC does not owe any debt of gratitude to Bama. Bama did not "steal" Nick Saban from LSU. Bama will never run through college football like they did in the 1960s.
Before you say I'm obfuscating the issue, please consider that I'm attempting to help Bama fans. When Bama sucked, which has been for the majority of this century, I cheered for Bama in every game except the LSU/Bama game. I like Bama. However, the "Got Twelve", "Got Saban", and any other proclamations of how great your program truly is relative to other programs in the nation are desperate, and they result in an extreme and unhealthy hate for your university.
Right now, Bama is the child prodigy who turned to drugs when everyone caught up to him, and the only rebuttal he has is that at one time, he was so much better than you. I really hate that kid.
The claimed national titles versus the unclaimed national title argument doesn't work, because it doesn't even out in the end.
To be honest, no one would really give a rats arse about how many national titles Bama won if Bama fans would not flaunt their "national titles" in the face of their opponents.
The modern era of football does not owe any debt of gratitude to Bama. Football in the south is not dependent on Bama's success. The SEC does not owe any debt of gratitude to Bama. Bama did not "steal" Nick Saban from LSU. Bama will never run through college football like they did in the 1960s.
Before you say I'm obfuscating the issue, please consider that I'm attempting to help Bama fans. When Bama sucked, which has been for the majority of this century, I cheered for Bama in every game except the LSU/Bama game. I like Bama. However, the "Got Twelve", "Got Saban", and any other proclamations of how great your program truly is relative to other programs in the nation are desperate, and they result in an extreme and unhealthy hate for your university.
Right now, Bama is the child prodigy who turned to drugs when everyone caught up to him, and the only rebuttal he has is that at one time, he was so much better than you. I really hate that kid.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 1:44 pm to Coonass
Lots of luck with this post...and getting an honest answer....
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