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Is there any film study/critique on our o line?

Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:59 am
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5031 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:59 am
Everyone blames the o line. Does anyone have anything where someone steps through examples of the bad play or technique? I just find it hard to understand how a whole unit of returning players can have so little improvement.

I'm interested in seeing if the players are poorly rated or poorly coached (or both).

I want to hear specifics in technique... Give me all the nerdy details.
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6564 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:29 am to
Don’t have specifics but I think it’s a little of both…not as good as advertised and absolutely no development!
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21307 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:31 am to
OLine has been poor since 2021. So, it's preceded DeBoer. A change at that coaching position is basically a must for the offseason.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51779 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:34 am to
I truly think Wolford's idea of recruiting only the biggest O lineman he could find set this program back big time.

Everywhere he went things kept getting worse.

I think combining his recruiting strategy and DeBoer's want for smaller nimbler o-lineman to run his scheme has created a mess
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
19600 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:36 am to
quote:

DeBoer's want for smaller nimbler o-lineman


DeBoer hasn't exactly signed small OL from the portal or new recruits since he's been here.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19750 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:37 am to
If someone provides the film I would love to breakdown a couple plays.

Our issue was a combination of everything though. In our scheme we need vertical passes to ease defensive pressure and when we can threaten with that it basically makes us easy to predict and stop.

So it started with that.

Which is why we would always have a loaded box.

Running is about finding the gap in the defense (where we have more blockers than they have defenders) and hit that hole. Due to teams playing downhill we rarely would have the advantage always running into stacked boxes.

With that said our running concepts and style from our OC always had us trying to "gap run" between the tackles but our bigger slower linemen inside would struggle at times.

What hurt us more was we didn't have an actual #1 RB. Even Daniel Hill is a 3rd stringer on any top team and he's our best option.

So yeah, it was a combination of everybody not just bad OL play. It's hard for the OL to block when they always are outmanned because their QB plays scared and doesn't read quickly or make the throws to alleviate pressure.

Put it like this, we terrorized Mendoza that first half and gave Ty time. Yet Mendoza even while running for his life made the righr decisions and accurate throws. Ty with more time made terrible decision after terrible decision.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19750 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

OLine has been poor since 2021. So, it's preceded DeBoer. A change at that coaching position is basically a must for the offseason.


Yeah James Brockmeyer who couldn't start over that kid who killed us at Center in Saban's last year looks like a Pro at Miami.

Definitely coaching...

However I would look at the Strength and Condition program first.

Downvote all you want but when was the last time we played 4 FULL quarters?? We get gassed, we get out muscled, we get beat up and not just by the best teams.. we have come to expect that and this is why the program has been slowly declining even before Saban left.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51779 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:41 am to
quote:

DeBoer hasn't exactly signed small OL from the portal or new recruits since he's been here.


Agreed, but he has not recruited the 330+lb guys either that were all over the roster

I guess leaner is the word..

Whether it has been a good strategy or not, right now probably a bit early to say. But does not look good
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 9:42 am
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3368 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:56 am to
Brockmeyer took five years to be a passable starter.

LINK

Brooks did this almost two months ago. It’s a factor of guys failing to get to the second level or missing an assignment. It’s usually not all of them but one or two at a time
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
943 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:54 pm to
My take on the OL issue has several aspects to the failure.

#1 - wrong body/skill types for what KD and the OC want to run. we have guys who should be plow mules but are being asked to sit back in their stance and move horizontally. The lack of speed/quickness allows at DT/DE to hop in their back pocket and follow them to the ball.

Horizontal blocking schemes may work well against baseline college DL's and DC's game planning. They do not work well against high end DC's and high end DL personnel. You can feast on the lesser competition but when you have to root out a high end DT in power mode, you do not have the horsepower to get it done. You best be hitting the edge before the LB's can get there to meet you.

#2 - We do not have a OLC that can coach plow mules and also coach horizontal blocking. I am not sure such a coach exists or players that can do both exist.

#3 - if you have plow mules and want to also be a pass first offense, you better have high end feet and body control on those plow mules. The stance when it is time to pass block is going to tell the pass rushers what is coming before the snap. If your foot speed and ballance are not really good, you will be reaching for the guy who just blew past you.

#4 - with our current HC/OC braintrust and what they like to do, we need an OL coach who also has run game cordination responsibility/authority. That guy best be able to build OL monsters in very short order.

#5 - S&C coach must be able to build power, quickness, and agility into guys with a monster mentailty - that is not what we currently have.

KD has to pick a lane (which he has) and recruit/purchase the players to excell in that lane. Then give then a mule skinner (OL Coach) capable and empowered to pull that out of them. KD must also give them the body shaper (S&C Coach) to build some damn fine work mules.

I am not sure KD has the ability to coach the type of team needed to perform at a championship level in a SEC type of high end power world.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12864 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:00 pm to
I am not sure KD has the ability to coach the type of team needed to perform at a championship level in a SEC type of high end power world.

Bingo

Bama is F'ed and there is 50 million to be paid for it.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23350 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:18 pm to
You can watch the film guy he does good work


But good lord it was bad. Wonder what their ranking was, anyone got it?
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
302 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:30 pm to
“I am not sure KD has the ability to coach the type of team needed to perform at a championship level in a SEC type of high end power world”

Seeing this at the bottom of your post says alot to me.
Ive heard things like this a few times through the year but it really seems to be swelling from some of the level-headed and important folks now.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4976 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:38 pm to
Can’t argue a bit with you.

Washington ran the ball effectively in 2023 and I mentioned we ought to go get that guy as RB coach, he was at Memphis this year and they ran the ball solidly, but JaMarcus has already hired him for Oregon State.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3368 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:39 pm to
If he couldn’t coach a championship level team he wouldn’t have made the title game and have the ranked record he does.

Y’all need to settle down
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4097 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Does anyone have anything where someone steps through examples of the bad play or technique?
The Film Guy commented on the line many times in his game film breakdowns this season. His analysis are very good. Many examples of poor technique, not getting off of first blocks, flat out being run past by athletic edges, etc.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26735 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:26 pm to
Just heard on radio that a former bama QB said OL and RB are terrible. They don’t do anything well.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
19600 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:29 pm to
You have to run a scheme your players can block. Not rocket science.

If your players can't fully run your scheme you add in things they can run.

Like I said before, look at who we signed on the OL in the portal and from high school. Most all are big bodied.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4097 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:30 pm to
They really don't and their efforts are completely inconsistent so you simply cannot build any momentum. This has been the core issue for several years from Saban to now. It has to be corrected or you have to find that 99 QB you created in NCAA Football on PS. Even then defenses figure out they don't have to do anything special to be effective by about mid-season.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12864 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:31 pm to
Was that Ray Charles?
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