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Just some perspective
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:03 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:03 am
Kalen Deboer is 51 years old
Lets compare Nick Saban and Curt Cignetti at same age
Saban was at LSU he had just gone 10-3(sound familiar) and in the 2002 season lost 5 games...including a 31-0 beatdown at HOME by Franchione
Cignetti was at a D2 school and went 9-2. The next season hed lose 5 games. Hed coach 3 more seasons...before even getting a job in D1 cfb
Ill agree that what we saw this season is just not palatable football at Bama. This even happened at Bama under coach Bryant. In the last years of the 60s, Bryant's teams lost their physical identity and were throwing the ball a lot. Bama went 12-10-1(tie) in 1969 and 1970.
My point:
If you are expecting any Alabama coach to defy the path all coaches go on of growth and change and just be prime of his career making all the right moves every season...you are gonna be disappointed.
There is room to be disappointed and expect change, while understanding that one season with 3 terrible games doesnt define you. If Bama loses by 1 or 35...doesnt matter for next season. Someone brought up 98 against Arkansas losing by a similar margin. I remember that game. Arkansas was a machine...you get your arse kicked by great teams sometimes. Bama won the SEC the next season, beating Spurrier twice at his peak(including a thrashing in SECCG).
Take a deep breath, let him go back to the drawing board and figure some things out. He either will or he wont. Im interested to see the pivot this offseason and am will be here next season
Lets compare Nick Saban and Curt Cignetti at same age
Saban was at LSU he had just gone 10-3(sound familiar) and in the 2002 season lost 5 games...including a 31-0 beatdown at HOME by Franchione
Cignetti was at a D2 school and went 9-2. The next season hed lose 5 games. Hed coach 3 more seasons...before even getting a job in D1 cfb
Ill agree that what we saw this season is just not palatable football at Bama. This even happened at Bama under coach Bryant. In the last years of the 60s, Bryant's teams lost their physical identity and were throwing the ball a lot. Bama went 12-10-1(tie) in 1969 and 1970.
My point:
If you are expecting any Alabama coach to defy the path all coaches go on of growth and change and just be prime of his career making all the right moves every season...you are gonna be disappointed.
There is room to be disappointed and expect change, while understanding that one season with 3 terrible games doesnt define you. If Bama loses by 1 or 35...doesnt matter for next season. Someone brought up 98 against Arkansas losing by a similar margin. I remember that game. Arkansas was a machine...you get your arse kicked by great teams sometimes. Bama won the SEC the next season, beating Spurrier twice at his peak(including a thrashing in SECCG).
Take a deep breath, let him go back to the drawing board and figure some things out. He either will or he wont. Im interested to see the pivot this offseason and am will be here next season
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:04 am
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:06 am to scottydoesntknow
Good post and good perspective. Let's hope DeBoer makes the right moves this off-season to address the very glaring issues from this year.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:15 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Let's hope DeBoer makes the right moves this off-season to address the very glaring issues from this year.
I hope he does because its 100% necessary
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:19 am to scottydoesntknow
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let him go back to the drawing board and figure some things out. He either will or he wont.
This is the key. Does he look at himself in the mirror and realize that the performance yesterday (and general lack of toughness, fire, and strength that has become an issue) are unacceptable? Or does he really believe it’s just a “fine line” between yesterday and being on top?
He probably wont fire Grubb, but he and Grubb need to get in the lab and figure some shite out. First thing is painfully obvious that we need to hire the best OLine coach in the country (whoever that is). And probably need a new running backs coach too.
And there are probably several other changes needed if he is serious about being elite at Alabama. I dont know what all of those changes are. But DeBoer makes $10mil/year to figure it out. So we better see some serious changes and tough decisions being made if DeBoer is going to grow as a coach.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:27 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:19 am to scottydoesntknow
You are missing the point of it all. It’s not about him being from the mid west, or a small school or his wife taking ozempic.
Its purely about the fact, we look like a bunch of bitches that just got our shite pushed in. We are not physical at all. We look fricking LOST at times. We are soft. We thrown the ball 21 times a game and 1 is beyond 10 yards,
We cannot run the ball because we are fricking soft. Did I mention that. We had the second largest offensive line in football. Even with our 235 pound mighty mouse center, and we had negative rushing games. Even yesterday we had like 20 something.
That’s not Bama and it’s fricking embarrassing. We are all the decline soon if we don’t have a head coaching change, or assistants change, or something, and I don’t care what kind of talent we have. We will lose and lose a lot
Its purely about the fact, we look like a bunch of bitches that just got our shite pushed in. We are not physical at all. We look fricking LOST at times. We are soft. We thrown the ball 21 times a game and 1 is beyond 10 yards,
We cannot run the ball because we are fricking soft. Did I mention that. We had the second largest offensive line in football. Even with our 235 pound mighty mouse center, and we had negative rushing games. Even yesterday we had like 20 something.
That’s not Bama and it’s fricking embarrassing. We are all the decline soon if we don’t have a head coaching change, or assistants change, or something, and I don’t care what kind of talent we have. We will lose and lose a lot
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:22 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:24 am to bodask42
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He probably wont fire Grubb,
He'd better fire somebody, or else he's going to screw around and get everyone fired, including himself.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:24 am to bodask42
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This is the key. Does he look at himself in the mirror and realize that the performance yesterday (and general lack of toughness, fire, and strength that has become an issue) are unacceptable? Or does he really believe it’s just a “fine line” between yesterday and being on top?
He probably wont fire Grubb, but he and Grubb need to get in the lab and figure some shite out. First thing is painfully obvious that we need to hire the best OLine coach in the country (whoever that is). And probably need a new running backs coach too.
And there are probably several other changes needed to if he is serious about being elite at Alabama. I dont know what all of those changes are. But DeBoer makes $10mil/year to figure that shite out and so we better see some serious changes and tough decisions being made if DeBoer is going to grow as a coach.
I think its very much a player issue as well as scheme. We need to do serious evaluation about the kinds of players we are recruiting. Right now it seems like the teams with 5 star divas are getting their asses kicked by the teams with players who just wanna play some damn football
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:28 am to RTRnFlorida
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RTRnFlorida
Everything you said, 100%.
All of us would get fired if we were as incompetent unproductive at our jobs as this coaching staff.
I've seen precious little evidence to indicate that these players...who clearly are deficient...have actually been coached on the practice field.
Go put up numbers that show that you're one of the worst at what you do (like our running game), then when the boss calls you in, ask him to give you another year. See how that works out for you.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:30 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:32 am to bodask42
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Or does he really believe it’s just a “fine line” between yesterday and being on top?
Of all the things he has said, more than anything else, this statement causes me to believe he's hopeless.
The ONLY way he begins to get my confidence back is to fire multiple assistants immediately.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:34 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:33 am to scottydoesntknow
This is fricking stupid.
Deboer was handed the keys to the most successful and talented football program in the Country.
He fricking destroyed it in two years and you stupid fricks have an extension on his desk this morning..
Deboer was handed the keys to the most successful and talented football program in the Country.
He fricking destroyed it in two years and you stupid fricks have an extension on his desk this morning..
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:34 am to scottydoesntknow
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If you are expecting any Alabama coach to defy the path all coaches go on of growth and change and just be prime of his career making all the right moves every season...you are gonna be disappointed.
If we are not to expect that, then we shouldn’t be paying $11 million a year.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:36 am to BamaGradinTn
Exactly. It’s fricking terrible. It’s like saying… is it better to not wipe my arse after I take a shite. Or just not wash my hands after I wipe and get shite on them.
Dumbest comment in sports. No Bama fan thought we would continue Saban. We were going to have down years. But we have really tanked. I don’t give a shite about the rose bowl achievement.
8 losses in two years.
Dumbest comment in sports. No Bama fan thought we would continue Saban. We were going to have down years. But we have really tanked. I don’t give a shite about the rose bowl achievement.
8 losses in two years.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:36 am to GooseSix
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This is fricking stupid.
Deboer was handed the keys to the most successful and talented football program in the Country.
He fricking destroyed it in two years and you stupid fricks have an extension on his desk this morning..
Exactly. My scenario above...when your boss calls you in because you're the most incompetent and unproductive in the industry, don't just ask for another year. Ask for an extension and a huge raise. When your boss stops laughing, he'll send security with you to go clean out your desk and escort you off the premises.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:38 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:44 am to scottydoesntknow
You do you. I’ve seen enough. I’ve seen all I need to see and I can see where this program is headed with this coach.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:45 am to BamaGradinTn
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RTRnFlorida
Everything you said, 100%.
All of us would get fired if we were as incompetent unproductive at our jobs as this coaching staff.
So you get fired if you outperform 95% of other people doing the same job? There are 136 teams...and KD produced a top 8 team.
In the SEC...KD outperformed 13 of the 16 teams...and beat one of the two that outperformed him
Some of yall need to grow the hell up
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:45 am to scottydoesntknow
Im all for giving room to grow and I think hell have three to four years to do that. But I dont think he will make the right changes needed to matter. At their core, the offensive staff (including the HC) likes to scheme teams to death and not physically dominate them. They put a soft inconsistent product on the field that all it takes to beat is having the opponent show up and play physical. Let's hope im wrong, but I just dont see this guy making a complete mindset change.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:47 am to babyray
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You do you. I’ve seen enough. I’ve seen all I need to see and I can see where this program is headed with this coach.
Cool, KD is gonna be the coach next year. If youve had enough, im sure you wont be tuning in to any games next year and definitely wont be celebrating any wins that happen.
Yall wanna nitpick everything KD says...but not yourselves. If youve had enough, then just pack it up until Bama hires a new coach
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:49 am to NWLA_Bama
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But I dont think he will make the right changes needed to matter.
Its a fair opinion to have. I dont really have any idea whether he will or not.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:50 am to scottydoesntknow
He didn’t outperform 95% of other coaches dumbass. Just because we squeezed into the top 12 doesn’t mean he outperformed anyone.
Do we need to go through the amount of statistical achievements this year that were almost dead last? Or the amount of games that we won some fricking how but had less Toto’s yards, less rushing yards, less passing yards, etc..
We got lucky because sometimes grit and grime still can’t blow the fricking house down, and 5star talent takes over. It’s like Bernard catch on a terrible throw. Or brooks 4th and 2 and making 7 guys miss.
Thats not coaching. He needs to fix this shite. Get his finger out of Grubbs arse and out of his mouth, and go get some assistants that know tough football. Doesn’t have to be Alabama connections. But tough gritty push you in the fricking dirt football.
Next season our entire storyline will be how Bama got blown out in the rose bowl, and they can’t run the football.
Do we need to go through the amount of statistical achievements this year that were almost dead last? Or the amount of games that we won some fricking how but had less Toto’s yards, less rushing yards, less passing yards, etc..
We got lucky because sometimes grit and grime still can’t blow the fricking house down, and 5star talent takes over. It’s like Bernard catch on a terrible throw. Or brooks 4th and 2 and making 7 guys miss.
Thats not coaching. He needs to fix this shite. Get his finger out of Grubbs arse and out of his mouth, and go get some assistants that know tough football. Doesn’t have to be Alabama connections. But tough gritty push you in the fricking dirt football.
Next season our entire storyline will be how Bama got blown out in the rose bowl, and they can’t run the football.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:52 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:52 am to RTRnFlorida
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He didn’t outperform 95% of other coaches dumbass. Just because we squeezed into the top 12 doesn’t mean he outperformed anyone.
By objective results he did. By your own subjective opinion maybe not, but those arent facts, they are just your opinion
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