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“BYE teams never win”

Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:08 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:08 am
All of the BYE teams were underdogs last year. The favorite won every game.

Penn State was -11 over Boise
Texas was was -13.5 against Arizona State
Ohio State was -2.5 against Oregon
Notre dame was -1.5 against Georgia

Ohio State was -7.5 last night. They're the first quarterfinal team to be favored and lose.

Texas Tech is also an underdog today.

Oregon is - 2.5
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:09 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:12 am to
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Penn State was -11 over Boise
Texas was was -13.5 against Arizona State
Ohio State was -2.5 against Oregon
Notre dame was -1.5 against Georgia

So the college football playoffs are flawed. What else is news when it comes to people picking favorites?
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31961 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:14 am to
More than anything, the data points for the B1G did not back up Vegas, the "experts" and definitely not the computers. Sagarin, for example, got it way more wrong than normal (and still does even after last night).



More conference games are not the answers. More big time out of conference games in-season would be better instead.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9602 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:16 am to
They fixed the Boise State/Arizona State conference champion getting a BYE issue.

Georgia was an underdog because Carson Beck was out. Ohio State nearly beat Oregon in Eugene earlier in the year and was the favorite all season.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:20 am
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31961 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:16 am to
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So the college football playoffs are flawed. What else is news when it comes to people picking favorites?


We're going to have to go to tiered divisions. That's all there is to it. A lot of people will bitch about it but I would love to see a tier I of the top 32 teams playing only each other.

A lot of traditional programs would get left out. But, relegation would give everyone a shot.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:18 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9602 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:18 am to
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More than anything, the data points for the B1G did not back up Vegas, the "experts" and definitely not the computers. Sagarin, for example, got it way more wrong than normal (and still does even after last night).


I think you can chalk it up to Miami being really, really good and brought their A game last night.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37196 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:19 am to
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Georgia was an underdog because Carson Beck was out. Ohio State nearly beat Oregon in Eugene earlier in the year amd was the favorite all season.
They need to go back to computers and have SOS some part of the equation.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10384 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:23 am to
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Ohio State was -2.5 against Oregon


I think the fact that Ohio St absolutely obliterated Oregon is the big driver of this. It does seem to have some legs now
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10384 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:24 am to
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More conference games are not the answers. More big time out of conference games in-season would be better instead.


There needs to be much more crossover amongst the "mid teams"
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9602 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:25 am to
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I think the fact that Ohio St absolutely obliterated Oregon is the big driver of this. It does seem to have some legs now


Ohio State was -2.5 before they obliterated Oregon. I’m not following you.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31961 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:27 am to
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I think you can chalk it up to Miami being really, really good and brought their A game last night.


They played the best they could possibly play last night but I still think overall they are a top 10 team. Yet, they could now be the favorite to win it all. "Peaking at the right time" is a real phenomenon.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:28 am
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31961 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:27 am to
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There needs to be much more crossover amongst the "mid teams"



I agree and I would like to see it.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9602 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:35 am to
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They played the best they could possibly play last night but I still think overall they are a top 10 team. Yet, they could now be the favorite to win it all. "Peaking at the right time" is a real phenomenon.


They’re also a bad matchup for Ohio State because they like to throw a lot of deep developing routes and it’s tough to do that often against an elite pass rush. Ohio State struggled to run the ball as they did against Indiana.

Teams that can’t run the ball and have to rely on the pass are really going to struggle against Miami.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37196 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:37 am to
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They played the best they could possibly play last night but I still think overall they are a top 10 team. Yet, they could now be the favorite to win it all. "Peaking at the right time" is a real phenomenon.
So maybe Ohio State's move to have Day call plays because their OC was leaving was a mistake. They had -3 yards rushing in the first have. Much better in the second half. Maybe Day got the mojo back at half time or he let the OC call plays.
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Member since Feb 2014
2397 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:38 am to
Georgia is screwed. We had the bye week.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3742 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:42 am to
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Georgia is screwed.


You heard it here first, folks!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9602 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:45 am to
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Georgia is screwed. We had the bye week.


Favored teams are 4-1 in the quarterfinals.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37196 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:45 am to
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Georgia is screwed. We had the bye week.
Bowl games have been deciding the national championship in football for more than 100 years. Everyone had essentially a "bye" since they all ended their seasons sometimes a month before their bowl game. This is all nonsense.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4357 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:45 am to
Getting a bye when you have 25 days off + Christmas in between is not an advantage the whole system is dumb AF
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9078 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:52 am to
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There needs to be much more crossover amongst the "mid teams"


Perennial mid teams mainly schedule to finish bowl eligible when they go 2-6 or 3-5 in conference play.

Then pundits still use the dumb "Team A beat this many teams with winning records (or bowl eligible teams)" metric.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:54 am
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