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Is there a player in recent history more valuable to their team than Pavia?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:51 am
Take Pavia away from Vandy and they're likely 6-6
Put any other Heisman candidate on Vandy in Pavia's place and they're still a 6-6 team
If he doesn't win the Heisman it will be criminal
Put any other Heisman candidate on Vandy in Pavia's place and they're still a 6-6 team
If he doesn't win the Heisman it will be criminal
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:52 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Deshawn Watson? Definitely Vince Young
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:55 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Agreed - he’s the RG3 of this decade. By far most deserving of the Heisman
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:55 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
According to bama fans it’s Overton today
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:00 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Sankey for Bama
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:09 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
The only reason Brian Kelly had a job as long as he did was Jayden Daniels. LSU wins 7 games without him.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:10 am to llfshoals
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Deshawn Watson? Definitely Vince Young
Yeah.... that's "recent" for sure.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:12 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Johnny Manziel. Imagine how good Texas would have been if they had recruited him.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:13 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Joe Burrow?
Or does that not count as "recent"?
Or does that not count as "recent"?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:22 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
I agree . & they should be in the playoffs
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:46 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
How recent we going? Cam Newton comes to mind
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:50 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
No and he clearly should win the heismen just because he did it at Vanderbilt.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:56 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
That’s a pretty idiotic take, any number of players over the last several years would have a huge impact on their teams if taken off of them: Tua, JB, Fields, Jalen Hurts, etc.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:03 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
As unlikeable and sleazy as $Cam was, he didn't just carry that Auburn team, he carried them all the way.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:11 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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Take Pavia away from Vandy and they're likely 6-6
Agree
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Put any other Heisman candidate on Vandy in Pavia's place and they're still a 6-6 team
Disagree.
Pavia is a great player that sparks Vandy's engine and a bona fide Heisman contender, but let's be honest. First, this is not your typical hapless Vandy team. They have upgraded the talent and resources across the board. Second, there are plenty of talented QBs who could excel in this offense.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:24 pm to AUFANATL
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Pavia is a great player that sparks Vandy's engine and a bona fide Heisman contender, but let's be honest. First, this is not your typical hapless Vandy team. They have upgraded the talent and resources across the board. Second, there are plenty of talented QBs who could excel in this offense.
Look, I don’t care for his pompous arse - but he backs it up with his play. He made it through the full SEC schedule playing his arse off and giving it everything he had. Run 15 yards and slide like a little bitch…not Pavia. Head first into every play.
Agree with you that this is not a normal Vandy team, but without him…they are not 10-2.
They belong in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:25 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Haynes King is in that same mix this season. GT may have won 3-4 without him
Posted on 12/6/25 at 12:50 pm to SouthernInsanity
quote:When you’re my age recent is more like that last decade or 2.
Yeah.... that's "recent" for sure.
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