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Today in 1978 was the best day ever for Alabama football---for having an open date

Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:42 pm
I don't post that often but a bit of friendly advise to the tl;dr crowd :exit this post NOW. I like waxing nostalgic in a postitive manner about all SEC teams.

Got to set the table for this to make much sense. Things in college football were just so different in the 1970's that they really don't make any sense. This day was ,of course,a Saturday, so on the prior Saturday, #1 Oklahoma played #4 Nebraska, #2 Penn State played NC State an #3 Alabama played #10 LSU. Seemingly normal stuff,but as members of the "Big Eight" Oklahoma and Nebraska would decide the conference's bid to the Orange Bowl. Penn State was still an independent with no tie-in with any bowl. This is part of the story that gets tricky. An Alabama win would keep them in line for the SEC's berth in the Sugar Bowl. But the tie-in with the SEC was only a couple of years old and only had two provisions for a tie: head to head or 'most recent trip.'

Georgia had seemingly come out of nowhere after Vince Dooley's first losing season in 1977 and was 4-0-0 (yes,the -0 suffix is important) with only a loss to South Carolina, who was still an independent. The SEC was in the midst of a six game conference schedule and Alabama and Georgia didn't play one another. Georgia did reprensent the Sugar after the 1976 season while Alabama played the year before in the Sugar. Advantage: Georgia.

Okay. November 11: (4) Nebraska 17, (1) Oklahoma 14.. Penn State beat NC State and Alabama beat LSU, 31-10. Another oddity that's hard to fathom now is AP and UPI voting was still basically done by phone and hand so the new polls wouldn't come out unti Tuesday, the 13th.

Well, with an Oklahoma and Penn State Orange Bowl match shot, the polls would surely have Penn State now #1 and Alabama #2 .Alabama was ranked ahead and had easily beaten Nebraska 20-3 in September so with Nebraska headed to the Orange and a very good shot of Georgia beating a "good" Auburn team, folks got busy. The Fiesta (WAAAAY before it got big time) and the Gator offered up a Penn State-Alabama matchup provided Georgia did beat to secure the SEC's Sugar bid.

The polls came out Tuesday and Penn State ,of course, was #1. #2? Nebraska. Joe Paterno and Penn State could now accept an Orange Bowl bid to play #2 Nebraska which would be for the national title as Paterno wanted to play the highest ranked team. Alabama was now looking at the Cotton or to be the "at large"team in the Sugar. But the Tide's hopes for a national title were rather bleak.

So, after years of bowls breaking 'gentlemen's agreements' and such Saturday the 18th at 6 PM was when bids could be officially announced. Alabama was off (as they also would be the following week caused by a scheduling quirk with ABC and Nebraska so there was no opportunity to sway anyone with a decisive win. Unfortunately for Nebraska the game with Oklahoma did not conclude their conference season. The Huskers had 1970's giant killer Missouri coming up at home where the Tigers had done most of their damage as the road team. And of course, The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry was chock full of upsets. But for Nebraska --guaranteed an Orange bid regardless-- to lose and Georgia to not beat Auburn were slim.

Somehow,someway within 30 minutes of each other on Saturday, November 18, Missouri upset Nebraska, 35-31 and Georgia tied Auburn , 22-22. Paterno and Penn State gambled on Alabama beating Auburn two weeks later (Georgia concluded their SEC mark at 5-0-1) and would go to the Sugar and play either Alabama or Georgia--if Alabama faltered. Polls came out and Penn State was #1 and Alabama was #2 and the Sugar Bowl committee did cartwheels.

And six weeks later Daniel Moore became a household name to sports fans in Alabama.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:47 pm to
Rec is gonna Rec.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:50 pm to
Is that the goal line stand game?

Posted by Roguestein
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:50 pm to
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I don't post that often
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36784 posts
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36776 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:51 pm to
That was the 14-7 game where Barry Krause and PSU on the 2 or so on 4th down, Barry yelled out "gut check time" as the Bear had said often. Alabama held and won the first of back to back NCs. They enjoyed a winning streak that ended with the 1980 6-3 against MSU in Jackson. I miss your writing because you remember old stuff and I like old stuff. Come back more often and you are welcome to correct anything I wrote that was wrong.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:52 pm to
Penn st was a lot like Notre Dame back in the 70s. They played a lot of nobodys and the polls still kissed their arses.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:59 pm to
Thanks for sharing man.

Wish you'd post more often.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 5:00 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:00 pm to
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don't post that often but a bit of friendly advise to the tl;dr crowd :exit this post NOW.


Done!
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:07 pm to
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PowerTool

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Tool


Nailed it

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:08 pm to
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the goal line stand game?


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Barry Krauss

Krauss was named All SEC in 1977 and 1978, All-American in 1978, and was named to Alabama’s All-Century team. He was drafted in the first round (6th overall) by Baltimore and was captain of the Colts defense from 1979-1988. In 1984, he was named team MVP. He completed his career with the Miami Dolphins where he led the team in tackles and captained the defense. He was named the Dolphins Most Valuable Player in 1989. He amassed more than 1,000 tackles during his career.
Posted by borotiger
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:13 pm to
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Registered on:9/7/2003


New guy.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:24 pm to
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I don't post that often



Post less.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69202 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:27 pm to
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Penn st was a lot like Notre Dame back in the 70s. They played a lot of nobodys and the polls still kissed their arses.


Uh…no. That ain’t true at all. They had undefeated seasons in 1968, 1969, and 1973 and weren’t voted #1 by any major poll.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:28 pm to
Pretty cool! Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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36776 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:30 pm to
Barry Krause was #77
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:35 pm to
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Barry Krause was #77

Hard to tell because it's black and white, but that was him with the Colts.

Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31193 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:37 pm to
Enjoyed the post. Thanks for the effort.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:55 pm to
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Barry yelled out "gut check time" as the Bear had said often. Alabama held an


Krause also told Fusina, the PSU QB, before 4th and 1, “you better pass.”

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20078 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Georgia tied Auburn , 22-22.


I think this was an Orange Jersey game.

There was a long play right before the half that looked like an AU TD, but ruled down and time was out.

Posted by chkenhawk
Member since Jun 2025
443 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:05 pm to
today in 1978 minus 2 months you got your arse spanked in COMO

another very good day
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