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Offense / Defense Scoring Averages - 1 through 16 team rankings
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:21 am
Still a small sample with only 3 games played where one good or bad game either way can skew the averages and with strength of schedule differences, but here is where teams stand as of today:
(Listed by defensive ranking then offensive ranking)
Oklahoma 1 / 11
LSU 2 / 16
Vanderbilt 3 / 8
Texas 4 / 14
Miss State 5 / 7
Florida 6 / 13
Auburn 7 / 10
Alabama 8 / 5
Missouri 9 / 2
S Carolina 10 / 15
Georgia 11 / 9
Arkansas 12 / 3
Ole Miss 13 / 4
Kentucky 14 / 12
Texas A&M 15 / 6
Tennessee 16 / 1
It's interesting that Texas, SC, and LSU are at the bottom on offense and had arguably the three best QBs going into the season.
I'd rather have a good defense if trying to win a championship, but you also have to have some offense.
(Listed by defensive ranking then offensive ranking)
Oklahoma 1 / 11
LSU 2 / 16
Vanderbilt 3 / 8
Texas 4 / 14
Miss State 5 / 7
Florida 6 / 13
Auburn 7 / 10
Alabama 8 / 5
Missouri 9 / 2
S Carolina 10 / 15
Georgia 11 / 9
Arkansas 12 / 3
Ole Miss 13 / 4
Kentucky 14 / 12
Texas A&M 15 / 6
Tennessee 16 / 1
It's interesting that Texas, SC, and LSU are at the bottom on offense and had arguably the three best QBs going into the season.
I'd rather have a good defense if trying to win a championship, but you also have to have some offense.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 11:21 am
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:26 am to NorthEndZone
I expect us to lose some close games because our offense is horrid
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:36 am to supersaints9
Agree. If LSU doesn't score 40+ against Southeastern, it will be another bad offensive game. I just want to see execution and consistency. A good game would be 6 or 7 touchdowns with 1 or 2 punts.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:37 am to NorthEndZone
As many have said before, Defense wins championships. LSU’s 2003 and 2007 NC were won with good (but not Heisman caliber) QBs who could manage the game and good defenses that kept them in the game.
Nuss is more than capable of doing that but his offense (by whatever means) needs to somehow be better than 16.
Nuss is more than capable of doing that but his offense (by whatever means) needs to somehow be better than 16.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:41 am to NorthEndZone
quote:no one with a brain thought that arch making, nussmeier, and sellers were the 3 best QBs. At the very east mareer would have been in that list. Nussmeier the for a bunch of yards but if you ever watched him you should know he's not that guy. Manning either is the best practice player in history or he's seriously injured and their backup is worse than an injured qb
It's interesting that Texas, SC, and LSU are at the bottom on offense and had arguably the three best QBs going into the season.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:43 am to warlock1974
Yeah.
Championship team recipe:
Top 25-30 defense - Check
Better than average special teams - Check (new punter is outstanding)
Top 25-30 offense - Big question ???
Championship team recipe:
Top 25-30 defense - Check
Better than average special teams - Check (new punter is outstanding)
Top 25-30 offense - Big question ???
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:48 am to narddogg81
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no one with a brain thought that arch making, nussmeier, and sellers were the 3 best QBs.
Agree. I was just stating what the sports talking-heads were saying in the offseason.
As much as a pedigree playing/coaching the game can help a child/relative of a great player, the player still has to have 'it'.
For every Eli and Payton, there are thousands of Max Johnsons (and much worse than that) and other children of NFL stars that never came close to being great.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:52 am to NorthEndZone
Great thread...we should keep this going every week
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:56 am to NorthEndZone
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had arguably the three best QBs going into the season.
Preseason hype machine for these 3 was obviously very wrong. Arch and Sellers had done very little to indicate a professional future. Nuss is probably a 3rd round talent but due to how bad this QB class, could end up a late 1st rounder.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:00 pm to NorthEndZone
The teams each have 1-2 games against OOC cupcakes after 3 weeks. This kind of analysis is thrown off by those games. Some teams run up the score against cupcakes. Others don't try to do that and instead work on developing depth or working on correcting weaknesses against the sacrificial lambs.
UGA scored 44 points against Tennessee. Do people really think they couldn't have scored 70 against Marshall or Austin-Peay if they wanted to? That wasn't their goal. They were working on developing depth and practicing things they weren't doing well in practice in those games so they would be better prepared later in the year.
Same goes for late game stats in games that are blowouts. I don't consider Wisconsin a true cupcake... but by the end of the 3rd quarter the game was over (35 to 7). At that point Saban would have 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game getting experience. Deboer had Simpson still throwing passes in 2 of the 3 4th quarter drives for Bama. I don't think Deboer's players are better than Saban's because they racked up stats in garbage time against blown out opponents. I think Deboer is actually a worse coach for doing that as it opens the door for injury and hinders the development of depth. Us old folks rememberr the Tyrone Prothro injury when Mike Shula ended Prothro's career by keeping him playing in a blowout game to pad stats.
UGA scored 44 points against Tennessee. Do people really think they couldn't have scored 70 against Marshall or Austin-Peay if they wanted to? That wasn't their goal. They were working on developing depth and practicing things they weren't doing well in practice in those games so they would be better prepared later in the year.
Same goes for late game stats in games that are blowouts. I don't consider Wisconsin a true cupcake... but by the end of the 3rd quarter the game was over (35 to 7). At that point Saban would have 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game getting experience. Deboer had Simpson still throwing passes in 2 of the 3 4th quarter drives for Bama. I don't think Deboer's players are better than Saban's because they racked up stats in garbage time against blown out opponents. I think Deboer is actually a worse coach for doing that as it opens the door for injury and hinders the development of depth. Us old folks rememberr the Tyrone Prothro injury when Mike Shula ended Prothro's career by keeping him playing in a blowout game to pad stats.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:04 pm to DawginSC
It's taken Brent Venables 4 years to unfrick what Lincoln Riley did to the defense. Winning/Losing games 55 - 52 was not fun.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:05 pm to NorthEndZone
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Vanderbilt 3 / 8
Damn
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:10 pm to NorthEndZone
Yards per game is a better measure. Points per game can be very fluky
LSU’s defense scored 7 or their 20 points last night, but points for/against doesn’t differentiate this. LSU’s offense gets credit for this. The stats show that Alabama allowed 14 points yesterday. This 14 points was used to calculate the points Alabama defense allowed. But, 7 of those came on a kick return.
Points are what matters. But yards gained/allowed is a better way to measure of how good each unit is. Points for/against is greatly impacted by the other unit.
LSU’s defense scored 7 or their 20 points last night, but points for/against doesn’t differentiate this. LSU’s offense gets credit for this. The stats show that Alabama allowed 14 points yesterday. This 14 points was used to calculate the points Alabama defense allowed. But, 7 of those came on a kick return.
Points are what matters. But yards gained/allowed is a better way to measure of how good each unit is. Points for/against is greatly impacted by the other unit.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:12 pm to DawginSC
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This kind of analysis is thrown off by those games
Exactly why I qualified it with the statement at the top of the OP.
In a few more weeks (after at least 2 SEC games per team) all the variables will average out, and the stats will be much more meaningful.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 12:40 pm
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