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A move in the right direction for college football. Pay the athletes directly and make....
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:07 am
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:07 am
sure third party NIL deals are legit and not just a booster paying for play.
Ross Delenger on the new college football.
Ross Delenger on the new college football.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:44 am to koreandawg
The settlement pays athletes backdated to 2016. All the transfers are going to try and double dip. 
It would suck if A&M, LSU and UNC have to pay Max Johnson; A&M, Auburn and Kentucky have to Calzada. TJ Finley gonna get like 5 checks too. I think there is a few basketball guys on their 3rd SEC school.
It would suck if A&M, LSU and UNC have to pay Max Johnson; A&M, Auburn and Kentucky have to Calzada. TJ Finley gonna get like 5 checks too. I think there is a few basketball guys on their 3rd SEC school.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 3:13 am to JayAg
If that's what it takes to stop the current wild wild west, it's well worth it.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:22 am to koreandawg
This makes no sense. Why are they even getting paid over and above what the scholarship provides for and the many perks for being on the team. This solves absolutely nothing. The college game is ruined.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:37 am to koreandawg
Why even call them students? There will soon be a lawsuit because some kid doesn't have the grades to get in, but he or she is athletic enough to play. They will be depriving those athletes an opportunity to play and earn money while the athletes are pretty much considered employees. Watch and see. It will happen. It's no longer 'college football' and there is a very strong argument to support that.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:19 am to da foozball
This idea that a football player’s worth is a scholarship and the pride of putting on your scholarship’s jersey is basically a pipe dream for righteous nerds fantasizing of what a privilege it is blah blah, an outdated fantasy. It’s a multi billion dollar business and it used to be illegal for them to do commercials or sell autographs.
I got a football signed by A&M players as a student, and a compliance guy told us (it was like 6 footballs signed by the entire team in total), “don’t sell them bc you can’t profit off their autograph’s while they’re in college, if it pops up on eBay, we will protect our athlete’s eligibility.” That’s a true story by the way. They couldn’t make any money off anything.
I got a football signed by A&M players as a student, and a compliance guy told us (it was like 6 footballs signed by the entire team in total), “don’t sell them bc you can’t profit off their autograph’s while they’re in college, if it pops up on eBay, we will protect our athlete’s eligibility.” That’s a true story by the way. They couldn’t make any money off anything.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:32 am to da foozball
quote:You should've been out of college football three or four years ago. Not really sure why you're still here. It's like we're talking how to survive with nukes and you're mad because the military has figured out how to drop a few low grade bombs from planes.
This makes no sense. Why are they even getting paid over and above what the scholarship provides for and the many perks for being on the team. This solves absolutely nothing. The college game is ruined.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:37 am to flagshipuniversity
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Why even call them students? There will soon be a lawsuit because some kid doesn't have the grades to get in, but he or she is athletic enough to play. They will be depriving those athletes an opportunity to play and earn money while the athletes are pretty much considered employees. Watch and see. It will happen. It's no longer 'college football' and there is a very strong argument to support that.
Again, you're complaining about something that was decided several years back and wasn't gonna be changed. If you thought what was going on now was going to go back to college athletes, especially football and men's basketball, getting a scholarship and that's that, you've been living on an island somewhere.
This is the best we can do. Stop the big booster money from buying players. Have "real" NIL deals and let the colleges share some of the revenue with the players. With the TV contracts and the amount of money the schools make, it was weird having these players sacrifice their bodies and get nothing but their education in return. What you're wanting is what the NCAA wanted. That's why they were very protective of how many games were shown on TV, etc. back in the day.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:03 am to koreandawg
To me, the real issue is eliminating the bag men. When under the table pay is still available the only real way to stop it, imo, is to get the IRS involved. Let the University pay the players what they think each players salary should be. The scholarship is part of the salary and this is all taxable to the IRS as an employee. Real NIL deals are completely the players deal and the University should not be a part of it. UNLESS they make a deal with the player to partnership on the selling of Jerseys or things with player Name, Image, or Likeness. If player can sell pizzas or Doritos, that's his deal. Ultimately earnings records are reported to IRS and if more money or properties show up than reported, look out brother!
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:20 am to koreandawg
Deloitte run NIL clearing house to determine NIL “legitimacy.” Just what we need: more committees.
This basically means only t-shirt fan schools can be successful because they’re the only ones with fans dumb enough to legitimately buy crap they see on TV or Facebook.
We’d also get an entire new era of sidestepping the legitimacy clause. It’ll end up as pay-for-play with a receipt this time. Who wants an Alabama meme coin?
This basically means only t-shirt fan schools can be successful because they’re the only ones with fans dumb enough to legitimately buy crap they see on TV or Facebook.
We’d also get an entire new era of sidestepping the legitimacy clause. It’ll end up as pay-for-play with a receipt this time. Who wants an Alabama meme coin?
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:53 am to koreandawg
Will contracts be in order?
Nobody can keep up with Oregon and Texas when it comes to money.
Nobody can keep up with Oregon and Texas when it comes to money.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:55 am to JayAg
The fact is that these players were, if anything, overpaid for decades with scholarships/room & board/coaching/medical care/etc. despite what the "muh capitalism!" types on here think. Outside of collegiate sports arena there is zero market for 18-22 year old players. None. The draw to watch these players is the fact that they play for Auburn or Texas or Notre Dame; not their individual star power. How do we know this all you "muh capitalism!" gotcha seekers? In the hundred odd years of professional football not one entrepreneur has ever tried to start a league with these players. Why is that? If these players were really worth the money, at some point, someone would have taken advantage of this glaring void in the marketplace. Funny how that's never happened.
The schools were very clear. "Here's the deal: if you want to get a free education, while at the same time getting treated like royalty on campus; sign up here to play college football/basketball. If that deal seems to odious to you; don't." Last I checked, not a single person or athlete was dragooned into playing sports. There weren't impressment gangs dragging kids off the streets forcing them to play for good ol' State U. If what the colleges were offering wasn't to their liking they could take their talents elsewhere.
If there is any entity that the do-gooder crusaders should be going after, it's the NFL. Not colleges. It's the NFL that artificially restricts the job market by refusing to employ 18 year old athletes.
The schools were very clear. "Here's the deal: if you want to get a free education, while at the same time getting treated like royalty on campus; sign up here to play college football/basketball. If that deal seems to odious to you; don't." Last I checked, not a single person or athlete was dragooned into playing sports. There weren't impressment gangs dragging kids off the streets forcing them to play for good ol' State U. If what the colleges were offering wasn't to their liking they could take their talents elsewhere.
If there is any entity that the do-gooder crusaders should be going after, it's the NFL. Not colleges. It's the NFL that artificially restricts the job market by refusing to employ 18 year old athletes.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:03 am to koreandawg
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You should've been out of college football three or four years ago. Not really sure why you're still here. It's like we're talking how to survive with nukes and you're mad because the military has figured out how to drop a few low grade bombs from planes.
A lot of us did get out, but we watch to see how things are going to change. It didn’t die 3 or 4 years ago, it actually died many years ago, we just were pretending that it didn’t.
These kids at top tier schools really haven’t been students for decades. They are getting into elite schools and barley know how to read and write and that in of its self is pretty fricked up.
I remember taking a coaching of basketball class as an easy elective to get an A when I was in college… the class was full of athletes. The class was easy of course but what stunned me was the athletes, they couldn’t fricking read. The teacher was begging them to read 1 paragraph for home work, he was treating them the way I would treat my 5 year old. It was fricked up and a real eye opener.
I still watched though of course, but that class changed my perception of what was really going on. NIL was the nail in the coffin.
The way this ends is that the current system almost has to branch off from the schools, associate with the states and allow the schools to go back to what it’s intended to be, students playing sports watched by other students and true alumni, much smaller in scale. See the Ivy League as an example of this.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:10 am to koreandawg
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sure third party NIL deals are legit and not just a booster paying for play.
Who gives a shite who’s paying them? By making them employees you can sign them to contracts with buyouts. This should minimize the unlimited transfers that are truly killing the sport
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:15 am to Oilfieldbiology
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By making them employees you can sign them to contracts with buyouts. This should minimize the unlimited transfers that are truly killing the sport
Only works if the player is dumb enough to sign contract with longer than 1 year length. Some will, some won't. There isn't going to be a silver bullet, but you're closer with employee or contractor base.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:17 am to Hellmet
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These kids at top tier schools really haven’t been students for decades. They are getting into elite schools and barley know how to read and write and that in of its self is pretty fricked up.
It is strange that most of the players can’t pass a normal curriculum at some schools. UGA, UF…there may be a couple of O Line players who can get a real degree…
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:19 am to koreandawg
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A move in the right direction for college football.
Would be to go backwards
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:28 am to Gaston
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It is strange that most of the players can’t pass a normal curriculum at some schools.
Are some players dumb? Yes
Most not be able to pass? Not likely.
I think most people are doing 2 things, discrediting the majority of athletes intelligence
Overestimating the difficulty it is to PASS once you’re in.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:33 am to koreandawg
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If that's what it takes to stop the current wild wild west, it's well worth it.
I seriously doubt this makes the whole situation palatable.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:38 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The fact is that these players were, if anything, overpaid for decades with scholarships/room & board/coaching/medical care/etc. despite what the "muh capitalism!" types on here think.
Not a fact, just your opinion. My opinion is they are a part of the engine that generates billions of dollars in TV revenue for the SEC and other conferences. The fact is that they own the rights to their NIL, and can sell it as they see fit. You trying to keep them in chains? They own themselves, the Universities do not own the athletes, deal with it. The schools do not pay the players, these 3rd party collectives or other private entities pay them. School just gives them admittance and maybe an education. Maybe there shouldn't be any school attendance or requirement? Just contracted employees similar to NFL?
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