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10 second run off in basketball?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:26 pm
So i hate these fouls at the end of games that make the last 5 min last 30. I'd like to see a team choice call in the last 5 min where you either take the fouls shots or 10 seconds are ran off for every foul.
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:17 am to BFANLC
I agree that a basketball game shouldn’t come down to a free throw contest and have no idea why we accept that as fans.
Baseball doesn’t work that way.
Football doesn’t work that way.
Hockey at least has a shootout.
I’m fine with an optional runoff in addition to any bonus or double bonus free throws the team would normally receive in the last two minutes to avoid what we currently get in end game scenarios.
Baseball doesn’t work that way.
Football doesn’t work that way.
Hockey at least has a shootout.
I’m fine with an optional runoff in addition to any bonus or double bonus free throws the team would normally receive in the last two minutes to avoid what we currently get in end game scenarios.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:09 am to BFANLC
It’s real easy.
Make these fouls intentional, because they are.
Stop with the 5 minute reviews
And reduce timeouts to 3 per half (2 30 sec and one 60). No carryover timeouts from the first half. Use them or lose them.
And no commercials in the final 3 minutes
Make these fouls intentional, because they are.
Stop with the 5 minute reviews
And reduce timeouts to 3 per half (2 30 sec and one 60). No carryover timeouts from the first half. Use them or lose them.
And no commercials in the final 3 minutes
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:14 am to Ten Bears
In the last 2 minutes, fouls in the back court are automatic 2 shots.
Limit the number of time outs in last two minutes. Maybe none allowed.
Coach them during the week to play ball. John Wooden told his players at UCLA to not look over at him for help during the game.. Ive already told you everything I know during the week.
Limit the number of time outs in last two minutes. Maybe none allowed.
Coach them during the week to play ball. John Wooden told his players at UCLA to not look over at him for help during the game.. Ive already told you everything I know during the week.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:24 am to tide06
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agree that a basketball game shouldn’t come down to a free throw contest and have no idea why we accept that as fans.
Because that's the correct strategy if a team is down and time is running out. And it has been since the shot clock was invented. What do you want to do when your favorite team is down 4 with 20 seconds left and the other team has the ball? Just lose and shake their hand?
If you want basketball games to be shorter, get rid of the hour of commercials. Record the game and fast forward through everything except the game.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:35 am to Teague
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What do you want to do when your favorite team is down 4 with 20 seconds left and the other team has the ball? Just lose and shake their hand?
That’s how it is in every other sport, why should basketball come down to a stall tactic won or lost at the line?
It’s not reflective of how the other 95% of the game is measured.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:39 am to tide06
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That’s how it is in every other sport, why should basketball come down to a stall tactic won or lost at the line?
It's actually keeping the offense from stalling. All a team has to do is make the free throws.
I'd rather go back to not having the double bonus.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:43 am to tide06
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That’s how it is in every other sport,
Watch other sports, I guess. The rule isn't going to change.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:54 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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It's actually keeping the offense from stalling. All a team has to do is make the free throws.
But again why is a sport predicated on athleticism, ball movement and defense determined by free throws?
It would be like football games coming down to a FG shootout.
It’s ridiculous and could be fixed easily.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:58 am to BFANLC
I get why late-game fouling is a thing, but on the other hand, I can't think of another situation in sports where players are told to intentionally break the rules because the outcome might potentially be favorable to their own team.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:01 am to tide06
No, free throws are an inherent part of the game, throughout the entirety of the game.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:16 am to TheTideMustRoll
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I can't think of another situation in sports where players are told to intentionally break the rules because the outcome might potentially be favorable to their own team.
Strategy can change at the end of the game in any sport.
We have onside kicks, run the ball and clock, spike the ball, intentional walks, etc etc.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:19 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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No, free throws are an inherent part of the game, throughout the entirety of the game.
In the NBA they average around 100 possessions a game.
Including end game scenarios 23% of possessions end up with free throws.
Subtracting end game possessions and clock killing fouls and about 15% of regular possessions result in free throws.
Why should something thats supposed to be 15-20% of the game be allowed to dictate 100% of end game possessions?
It’s a horrible way to handle it because it de-emphasizes all the things and skills that drive the rest of the sport: movement, athleticism and the entire defensive side of the ball outside of a quick press trap.
The Ringer: Free Throws by Era in NBA
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:35 am to tide06
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Why should something thats supposed to be 15-20% of the game
It's supposed to be whatever percentage of the game it is. A foul is a foul.
This is a dumb thread. Fouling to extend the game and your chances for a comeback have always been part of the modern game. It's also responsible for more exciting endings than vice versa. In this fantasy world where it doesn't happen anymore, you can just turn your TV off in the last minute of 95% of games.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:38 am to tide06
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Why should something thats supposed to be 15-20% of the game be allowed to dictate 100% of end game possessions?
For one, that's not the case. Only in close games and only for one side as the other side is trying not to foul.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:08 pm to Teague
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Strategy can change at the end of the game in any sport.
We have onside kicks, run the ball and clock, spike the ball, intentional walks, etc etc.
Not the same thing as all of those are plays allowed by the rules. In basketball fouling is against the rules, which is why it is penalized. It would be more akin to telling a defensive linemen to intentionally jump offsides because it might in some way end up benefiting his own team.
I'm not arguing that late-game fouling should be removed, I'm just pointing out that it is in some ways directly against the spirit of the game.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:10 pm to Ten Bears
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Make these fouls intentional
Right. Gives you the ball after the free-throw shots.
If you’re going for the steal, I understand. But they need to call these like they are - intentional.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:16 pm to Teague
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What do you want to do when your favorite team is down 4 with 20 seconds left and the other team has the ball? Just lose and shake their hand?
You could still trap the ball and try to force a turnover.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:50 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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I can't think of another situation in sports where players are told to intentionally break the rules because the outcome might potentially be favorable to their own team
Exactly...a few years ago Bill Belichick had his players jump offsides/false start can't remember which but it gave his team an unfair advantage that during the off season the NFL changed the rules where it was no longer allowed.
Imo teams shouldn't be allowed to break the rules to turn the game into their favor and delay the game. You're down 12 with 2 min....probably should have played a better game.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 7:01 am to BFANLC
In the last 2 minutes of the game, the double bonus should be 2 shots and possession. That would stop the intentional fouling in a hurry: you have to play lock down defense and full court press to climb back in the game.
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