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The Pavia ruling

Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:18 am
I don’t like it even if in the future it benefits my team the trickle down could be crazy.

For example if you aren’t a top 300ish player why would you go to a major university and ride the pine 3 years developing when you could go Juco and play for 2 years while being in an improved strength and conditioning program from high school. Then be able to be 20 competing for spots with 17-18 year old high school players and still have 4-5 years of eligibility.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:22 am to
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For example if you aren’t a top 300ish player why would you go to a major university and ride the pine 3 years developing when you could go Juco and play for 2 years while being in an improved strength and conditioning program from high school.
Sounds like the ruling benefits the players, as it should.

Time to dust off the ole cleats, daddys got some eligibility left

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50083 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:22 am to
Kids are too impatient to maximize this opportunity on purpose.

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:27 am to
College baseball coaches will love this for pitchers.

Go get that college leg strength and arm issues worked out. Increase velocity and accuracy on pitches.

Just not sure I want to see a 26 year old safety hitting a guy like Bryce Cain weighing 160 pounds
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:27 am to
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For example if you aren’t a top 300ish player why would you go to a major university and ride the pine 3 years developing when you could go Juco and play for 2 years while being in an improved strength and conditioning program from high school.


Got to put your ego in check to rationalize a move like this and lots of players can’t. Just like Robbie Ashford still trying to play QB when he should have switched to an athlete role years ago.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50083 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:28 am to
Your last point is a great point. They will be grown men by then.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:29 am to
Always have said he’s a free safety playing QB. Dude would probably already be in the NFL has legit 4.5 speed and the size
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:31 am to
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Just not sure I want to see a 26 year old safety hitting a guy like Bryce Cain weighing 160 pounds
there arent age limits to college applications last time I checked. Plus, why should the college football dream be afforded only to the young.

If you can play, have eligibility, and contribute to the team....lace em up. Age shouldnt matter at all.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:37 am to
Fairness in sport bro. It should be a thing. I get what you are saying but there are many loopholes that will be exposed.

Such as, revenue sharing, that’s and instant $20.5m to go to athletes. Why should Bruce go to a couple pro players from the leagues that don’t pay but have high quality players and get them to come play basketball at AU. A 26 year old freshman from some Turkish league. Not what I want college sports to be
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5858 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:37 am to
Cam still has one left.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39613 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:38 am to
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If you can play, have eligibility, and contribute to the team....lace em up. Age shouldnt matter at all.


By the same logic, HS kids should be immediately elligible for the NFL (not saying you are agianst that).

If we are to some degree not putting some sort of soft cap on the age at which athletes can compete in college, they should also be able to go straight to the NFL if they think they are ready physically, or any other sport.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:40 am
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6583 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:38 am to
When I was a kid, I hated playing Monopoly because other kids often just made up their own rules as they went along to the point the entire thing just felt like a never-ending waste of time.

That's college football and it's not going to help the end product in the long-run. One day, people will ask themselves why they're wasting their time and that's when those fat TV contracts will blow away with the wind.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:42 am to
Solution would be 5 years from graduation of high school to play 5 years. So 5 for 5. No more redshirts with the exception of a 2 year injury. And call it a medical exemption.

Plus would major universities have to come up with a junior varsity model like in the old days when freshman couldn’t play. I’m not opposed to a junior varsity becoming a thing again and playing 3-4 games in the spring. I mean damn we gonna land somewhere between 105-120 scholarship players in the next couple seasons
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:50 am to
Jucos have shitty facilities, shitty dorms and shitty towns. That’s probably why most don’t want to go there.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:56 am to
If you are sub 300 recruit you more then likely aren’t making the NFL. Yes I know there are exceptions. It won’t take these “agents” long to realize their players development to get paid in the next 2 cycles will be high with Juco experience
Posted by BrounHaller
Mtn Brook
Member since Aug 2023
1842 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:02 am to
Any time we want to pitch changes to the system, it’s instructive to analyze what will make the most money for the powers that be. That’s what will eventually win out.
IMO we need to have a minor league for CFB where only 1st and 2nd year players are allowed just like the JV system in high school. Talented 1/2 players are allowed to play in the 3-4 year league but not vice versa. Have a short season (6 games?) for 1/2 with a mini National Championship like the NBA Cup. That should get a lot of eyeballs with talented young players balling out.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43890 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:09 am to
Can the NCAA legally restrict the age on a paid job or limit the length of time you can perform said job? Once they turned this from a student-athlete deal into a paid player deal, I'm afraid they've opened a Pandora's Box that they will never get closed.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:10 am to
That’s the resolution to what could happen with this ruling. However I don’t think we need champions or anything like that for a JV team. 3-4 games in the spring and still have the ability to play with the varsity in the fall.

People would watch on ESPN. So it would pay for itself. Experience and deep coaching by a JV staff exposure for young coaches and young players to develop.

Who knew maybe Cadillac could be an Auburn head coach
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:11 am to
I don’t know the answer to that as I’m not much into law. One of my weaknesses
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13208 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:11 am to
Most kids go to college to make money, some don't and chase skirts, some get a degree, a great many do it in 5 years... so why not with football players?

Junior varsity, juco,or whatever good system it be, it simply takes some longer than others. And it doesn't hinder those who can do it in three.
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