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Did yall see Nick Saban on McAfee talk about NIL?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:02 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:02 am
He talked about how NIL is steadily going up each year and the first year it was only $3M and then it was $7M and then it became $10M and this years it was $13M and next year is looking like $20M.
Pretty soon not even Oregon and Texas are gonna be able to afford it. Something has to be done.
Pretty soon not even Oregon and Texas are gonna be able to afford it. Something has to be done.
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:04 am to mistaken4193
One school reportedly has a single booster worth $15 billion.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:05 am to mistaken4193
All these guys have agents now.
Without multi-year binding agreements, NIL will continue to happen. Simple as that.
You certainly don’t need the government.
You need a brand new overseeing body with rules -which is NOT feasible right now because Indiana (a massive school with the best business, music, etc. schools in the country) Notre Dame, Ole Miss, etc. donors have deep pockets and want wins/playoffs after sucking for years.
You’ll have to wait until these big donors start running out of money (to give to NIL) or realize their $$ ain’t helping their team, or players leave after a year. Guys with money hate parting with money without results.
I’m afraid we are stuck with this for awhile.
Without multi-year binding agreements, NIL will continue to happen. Simple as that.
You certainly don’t need the government.
You need a brand new overseeing body with rules -which is NOT feasible right now because Indiana (a massive school with the best business, music, etc. schools in the country) Notre Dame, Ole Miss, etc. donors have deep pockets and want wins/playoffs after sucking for years.
You’ll have to wait until these big donors start running out of money (to give to NIL) or realize their $$ ain’t helping their team, or players leave after a year. Guys with money hate parting with money without results.
I’m afraid we are stuck with this for awhile.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 8:08 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:09 am to Bham4Tide
You just pay your players a decent salary and if that's not enough then let the go chase a larger bag. 7-5 or 8-4 at best but at some point, you have to stay within your checkbook.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:38 am to Bham4Tide
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You’ll have to wait until these big donors start running out of money (to give to NIL) or realize their $$ ain’t helping their team, or players leave after a year. Guys with money hate parting with money without results.
When you're talking about billionaire boosters, they'll run out of interest or breath before they run out of money. If you waiting on something to change on that front, you're going to run out breath before seeing anything change too.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:53 am to Diego Ricardo
Bargain shopping is the way through this. It will ultimately end with some kind of solution because this isn't sustainable.
You have to get the most bang for your buck. Let guys play both ways. Let back up players chase bags. Pay your qb and d-lineman. Receivers, running backs, defensive backs and linebackers are a dime a dozen. Much easier to replace Ryan Williams than it is Tua. Much easier to replace Deontae Lawson than it is Aaron Donald.
There's a reason QBs make the most money in the NFL and the highest paid defensive players are d-linemen.
You have to get the most bang for your buck. Let guys play both ways. Let back up players chase bags. Pay your qb and d-lineman. Receivers, running backs, defensive backs and linebackers are a dime a dozen. Much easier to replace Ryan Williams than it is Tua. Much easier to replace Deontae Lawson than it is Aaron Donald.
There's a reason QBs make the most money in the NFL and the highest paid defensive players are d-linemen.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:55 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Don’t laugh … we need the college football version of Billy Beane doing “Moneyball.”
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:02 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
I agree that it is not sustainable but the problem I see is even more coherently managed leagues like the NBA is struggling with doing what is necessary to keep their product relevant. They keep on attacking the wrong problems when the real problem is the 82-game schedule is ridiculous. It leads to more injury shamming players and low-effort games robbing fans of good matchups. Instead of shortening the season and insisting to the media partners that the games will be better watched, they rather take a hostile posture against injury/load management which ends up making more of their stars get injured.
So if the NBA is unable to rationally tackle their issues, how can top-end CFB do it when it is less coherently managed with instead a bunch of petty fiefdoms in small-state competition trying to back stab one another like it is 16th through mid-20th century Europe?
So if the NBA is unable to rationally tackle their issues, how can top-end CFB do it when it is less coherently managed with instead a bunch of petty fiefdoms in small-state competition trying to back stab one another like it is 16th through mid-20th century Europe?
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:16 am to Diego Ricardo
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when the real problem is the 82-game schedule
The NBA has multiple problems, but I agree. Shorten the season, and for the love of Mary & Joseph why do more teams make the playoffs than not? It's not enough to have 82 regular season games but then you have to turn around and play 82 playoff games? It's ridiculous.
I've also long since thought that there isn't enough elite talent to spread across these professional leagues. It's why you have guys like AR15 getting drafted in the 1st round and Bron Bron playing until he's social security age. There are too many teams. Contraction consolidates the talent to fewer rosters. It provides depth to each team. It forces less talented players to end their careers at college or the minor leagues. This is true across all professional sports. I get that there has to be losers if there are winners, but seriously are the Hornets ever going to win an NBA title? Are the Rockies ever going to win the World Series? Are the Jaguars ever going to win the Superbowl?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:17 am to InkStainedWretch
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Don’t laugh … we need the college football version of Billy Beane doing “Moneyball.”
I don't disagree at all. But knowing what it takes to win at football is more important. If you don't know what wins, then you don't know where to spend.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:45 am to Diego Ricardo
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When you're talking about billionaire boosters, they'll run out of interest or breath before they run out of money
Tucking in here because a lot of people don't seem to be talking about this.
SMU is going to buy a title. They're in year one of a billionaire and his friends literally doing exactly what some predicted might happen. Which is going to be sort of hilarious when they burn this whole NIL thing down by showing how dumb it is to remain unregulated.
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All it took was $270 million. That's the cumulative amount SMU is raising to fund its athletic program for the next nine years in the ACC. Last year, the school agreed to join the conference for … nothing.
SMU agreed to join the ACC on Sept. 1, 2023. Five days later, 31 SMU supporters stepped forward to contribute $100 million.
Approximately $125 million has been raised, enough to fund SMU athletics for the next five years.
Meet David Miller, SMU's billionaire alum who spearheaded the Mustangs' return to big-time college football (ESPN)
This story was written in July, BTW, before the season even started.
They're going to buy every single player they can get from here on out after the playoffs.
It's only beginning for guys with unlimited resources who want to win.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:10 am to paperwasp
$20M per year is only 2x what we are paying for coaches. Sarcasm font.
Gonna look really bad having those 100k seat stadiums half full when fans lose interest because of team turnover every year.
This trajectory with NIL and the portal is unsustainable. We are watching CFB die a cancer riddled death.
Gonna look really bad having those 100k seat stadiums half full when fans lose interest because of team turnover every year.
This trajectory with NIL and the portal is unsustainable. We are watching CFB die a cancer riddled death.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:21 am to paperwasp
Isn't there a billionaire booster at every Texas school?
If you're a Texas school, just join a conference where there isn't another Texas school and hit your wealthy donors up for NIL cash.
Playoffs in 5 years:
Texas
Aggie
SMU
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
UTSA
UTEP
Oregon
OhioSt
PennSt
Notre Dame
If you're a Texas school, just join a conference where there isn't another Texas school and hit your wealthy donors up for NIL cash.
Playoffs in 5 years:
Texas
Aggie
SMU
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
UTSA
UTEP
Oregon
OhioSt
PennSt
Notre Dame
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:25 am to paperwasp
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Tucking in here because a lot of people don't seem to be talking about this.
Us non-billionaire poors just don't understand the scale of what that money can do just sitting still much less when you use it to be well managed and insulated against catastrophe. At that scale of money, the rules change. It is why I've always been dismissive of people who treat large corporate or state finances like middle class household finances. They just don't really get it but its understandable because I only "get it" conceptually.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:32 am to Diego Ricardo
No kidding. $1 billion drawing 5%, which any Swiss account will guarantee, draws $50m just sitting there. Per year.
It's insane when you think about it, and you know these rich dudes don't just have their money sitting in Switzerland only drawing 5%.
It's insane when you think about it, and you know these rich dudes don't just have their money sitting in Switzerland only drawing 5%.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:45 am to paperwasp
quote:couldn't buy Keelon Russell
They're going to buy every single player they can get from here on out after the playoffs.
It's only beginning for guys with unlimited resources who want to win.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:50 am to narddogg81
Stanford has 74 billionaire alums, and USC has 29, Michigan has 26. Theoretically these schools should be able to buy whatever players they want, of course it could be that the billionaires don't care about football ( clearly one Michigan one does). I don't think Alabama has any
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:01 am to narddogg81
Stanford and USC don't care about football like Texas does.
Movies like Friday Night Lights are basically documentaries about high school football in Texas.
Also the populations are just different. For every Brock Bowers and Tom Brady from the Bay Area, there are 100s NFL players raised in Texas.
Texas has been supplying college football programs outside of Texas with talent for decades. L.A. and Bay Area, not so much.
Also, the majority of the Stanford alum billionaires are probably not even from the Bay Area. The vast majority of billionaires in Texas are born and bred texans.
Movies like Friday Night Lights are basically documentaries about high school football in Texas.
Also the populations are just different. For every Brock Bowers and Tom Brady from the Bay Area, there are 100s NFL players raised in Texas.
Texas has been supplying college football programs outside of Texas with talent for decades. L.A. and Bay Area, not so much.
Also, the majority of the Stanford alum billionaires are probably not even from the Bay Area. The vast majority of billionaires in Texas are born and bred texans.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:18 am to narddogg81
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Stanford has 74 billionaire alums, and USC has 29, Michigan has 26. Theoretically these schools should be able to buy whatever players they want, of course it could be that the billionaires don't care about football ( clearly one Michigan one does). I don't think Alabama has any
Michigan's billionaire benefactor is not an alum, at least not directly. Larry Ellison's 34yo wife is a Michigan alum and she's using her sugar daddy allowance on their football roster.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:24 am to mistaken4193
If a bunch of power schools make noise, something will happen.
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