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Are Wommack and Sheridan on the hot seat for their jobs?

Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:02 am
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:02 am
I read somewhere that they may be (can't remember where I saw this). I think these next two games for Wommack are critical. If Bama comes out as unprepared like they did vs OU this Saturday and the bowl game, I have to wonder if CKD will have to can him (either on his own or Greg Byrne demands it).

Sheridan, IMO, gets a bit of a pass. I'm not sure Lane Kiffin could have done more with Milroe and love him or hate him, Lane is a great offensive mind. Milroe is simply too stupid and selfish to be a consistent QB. So, I think this year, Sheridan gets a bit of a pass. Next year though, Sheridan will have to deliver. He won't have the Milroe excuse, so the expectation will be that the offense has massively improved.

I still believe in CKD, think he's a good man and a good coach but he's got to get control of the team and IMO, sh*t can Wommack after this season. Sheridan might work out but Wommack simply isn't good enough.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12874 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:08 am to
The question is why haven't they been fired yet for the horrible job that they have done this year?

Kiffin turned Blake Sims into a SEC Championship and playoff QB.

Rees turned Milroe into a SEC Championship and playoff QB last year.

Womack didn't fix the problem he had against Vanderbilt. When OU brought out the same offense, he should have instantly known out to stop it, he didn't. Gave up over 200 rushing yards in the first half.

I'll say it again, why haven't they been fired yet?

Deboer is in the hot seat for not knowing the grind of the SEC and having his team completely unprepared to play Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:13 am to
I like the idea of Wommack's defense, but there's a difference between being strong against pass first offenses and only being able to defend pass first offenses. In the modern game you have to be strong against the pass, but if you can't slow down, much less stop, a completely one dimensional run offense like we have seen him fail to do multiple times this season then you have no business being a DC at this level of football.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27889 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:16 am to
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Rees turned Milroe into a SEC Championship and playoff QB last year.




I'd swap Sheridan for Rees right now.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12874 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:23 am to
In the SEC, you have to be able to stop the run first. If you don't do that, your going to get run over.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
18556 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:26 am to
Watching us trot out 3 DL knowing exactly what Oklahoma was going to do was crappy to be honest. Our LB aren’t the guys for this scheme.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17930 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:30 am to
Wommack should be fired at the end of the season. I would give Sheridan another year but hire a ton on offense and defense analyst to help those guys with gameplan and adjustments
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
2497 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:48 am to
I doubt either one will be fired but both should be seeking new jobs,
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
18556 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:51 am to
I agree. Sheridan, let’s see what he can do with a better QB.

Wommack his scheme is so easily defeated. Either we need his type of players or we need to go back to our old defense. It can’t be both.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:30 am to
It's not really a scheme issue to me. He just can't or won't make adjustments. Plenty of teams, with varying types of defenses, have wrecked Oklahoma's offense this season. We just had the bright idea to spend the majority of the game defending Baker Mayfield/Lincoln Riley OU instead of Jackson Arnold/Brent Venables OU. I can look past the first drive and first few plays of the next one, but by that point you have to realize that they aren't going to throw the ball and try to catch you napping. I don't think he has a clue how to attack what is essentially just option offense out of the shotgun, because he did the exact same shite he did against Vandy. No aggression, no run blitzing, nothing disguised. Just sitting back and trying to tackle the ball carrier 3-6 yards past the LoS while they take the air out of the ball.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17930 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:00 am to
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I agree. Sheridan, let’s see what he can do with a better QB.


That's not an excuse.

This forum may hatred Milroe but sadly he is one of the better QBs in the country. The guy is just inconsistent and basically unplayable if he can't find early rhythm in away games.

Sheridan repeatedly running different versions of QB powers when quick hitting runs in the gaps were working is not Jalen's fault.

It's Sheridan's.

With that said Sheridan has shown a lot of good outside of his inability to adjust. He can build a good gameplan when they are locked in. We know this.

I just believe we're understaffed and all those analyst KDB let go were very significant

If you remember last season I kept saying Rees was lost till halftime and at halftime we had some analyst that literally gave him a different gameplan and as long as he stuck to it we were good. When he went back to his basic predictable calls we struggled.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17930 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:01 am to
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Wommack his scheme is so easily defeated. Either we need his type of players or we need to go back to our old defense. It can’t be both.


He can't adjust at all. I mean he has to go because he can't even SEE the game.

At worst in a DC you need a guy who sees the game then formats a way to combat what he's seeing. Wommack doesn't see shite and he proved that last game.
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
144 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:10 am to
How many “good” games has kw called without his dad on sidelines?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17243 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:25 am to
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Watching us trot out 3 DL knowing exactly what Oklahoma was going to do was crappy to be honest.

That was malpractice.
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Our LB aren’t the guys for this scheme.

Bet they’d look a lot better if they weren’t being asked to deal with 315 pound OL blockers solo.

The issue with the three down look isn’t just a numbers issue. It means their numbers are bringing 50-75 pounds at the point of contact. That’s a CB losing proposition from a physics perspective.

Ro McClain isn’t shedding a LT to make a tackle without space.

And with guys attacking gaps it means if he gets beat it’s a guaranteed explosive play.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:36 am to
The first half against OU was ugly, but they were shut out in the 2nd if it hadn't been for the two interceptions.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17243 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:49 am to
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This forum may hatred Milroe but sadly he is one of the better QBs in the country.

No he’s one of the best runners in the country, not best QBs. Any competent DC with a mid level SEC roster can scheme him into oblivion just by taking certain looks away.
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Sheridan repeatedly running different versions of QB powers when quick hitting runs in the gaps were working is not Jalen's fault. It's Sheridan's.

That was the worst offensive gameplan I’ve seen for Alabama since Darby up the middle during the Shula era.

It almost felt like Sheridan had scripted plays that Milroe either wasn’t confident audibling out of or wasn’t allowed to because a 16 year old playing Madden isn’t gonna run QB power up the middle into an 8-9 man box outside of a short yardage situation. We were running that on 3rd and 10.

DeBoer is an offensive genius based on his stuff at UW. I refuse to believe he doesn’t see the issues from the TN, USCe and OU games.

So we’re at a point now where either he has given full autonomy to Sheridan and this is what Sheridan wants to do, this is all they feel they can call with Milroe or Milroe is calling his own number out there.

But if it’s options 2 or 3 Milroe has to be benched because you simply can’t win that way against SEC competition.

I don’t have enough information to say what is what, but the performance against OU was simply unacceptable at the elite P4 level. It looked like a bad pop Warner offense. I mean hell if Milroe is that cooked and you refuse to bench him at least try to run the Malzahn offense not some broke arse 6th grade two page playbook.

We were shockingly unprepared at all levels Saturday and for the second time this season (failure to bench Malachi after the Vandy meltdown) I’m concerned about the future of the program.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6921 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:09 am to
Wommack maybe. Sheridan deserves a pass to see how he does with an actual QB running the offense.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47411 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:10 am to
No they aren't.

But would not be surprised to see Wommack move on
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6921 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:15 am to
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but they were shut out in the 2nd if it hadn't been for the two interceptions


Yes. Wommack claims the adjustments made at halftime shut down OU for the most part. The Bama offense, Milroe's turnovers, put the game away for OU in the second half.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47411 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:19 am to
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Wommack claims the adjustments made at halftime shut down OU for the most part.


4 offensive drives for OU in the second half

5 plays 14 yards - TD
5 plays 15 yards - Punt (First Punt of the day)
5 plays 15 yards - Punt
10 plays 34 yards - Almost 7 minutes drained off the clock

They made our arse quit in the second half
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