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I think there are guaranteed starter deals being made behind closed doors with NIL.

Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted by collegefootballisbroken
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:49 pm
You cannot convince me that Milroe would have stayed in the game otherwise. Milroe is only one example. There is terrible QB play happening all over the country and it seems the HC just leaves the starter in with no thought of changing QBs.

DeBoer is no Saban, but there’s no way he’s stupid enough to think Milroe is an actual QB who can run his offense. There are guaranteed starter deals being made.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:53 pm to
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DeBoer is no Saban, but there’s no way he’s stupid enough to think Milroe is an actual QB who can run his offense. There are guaranteed starter deals being made.


Well, no one thought Milroe was good at the start of last season, then they sat him out a game to try other qbs and they were worse than him. He may just be their best option right now.
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:54 pm to
Ewers?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:54 pm to
I think DeBoer left him in to punish him. Most times when the game has gotten away from a team, it's not just the blowout winning team that starts subbing, the losing team does to. I don't think DeBoer wanted to let Milroe off the hook that easy, and made him play in his own shite.

I think that's more likely the reality than some conspiracy about NIL contracts about starting.
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:55 pm to
Newsflash…….Boosters run big time college football. It is a club on the level of the US Senate.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 5:57 pm
Posted by collegefootballisbroken
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:58 pm to
It doesn’t matter if you think he’s your best option or not. When you don’t perform or you perform that badly, you have to face repercussions and Milroe was allowed to just stay in the game after completely tanking his teams hopes. Not only that, but after he was hurt why didn’t they save him for Auburn if he’s the teams best option? I’m telling you he has it on paper that he has to be the starter or he can sue someone. There’s just no other answer or explanation. Also that USF game was more than a year ago. You’re telling me none of the other QBs advanced in a year?
Posted by collegefootballisbroken
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:59 pm to
Also if SCAR beats Clemson we better be in.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:04 pm to
100%. Pretty sure that’s what happened with Brock and Kentucky and it’s taken damn near a fan mutiny to get Boley.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:05 pm to
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I’m telling you he has it on paper that he has to be the starter or he can sue someone. There’s just no other answer or explanation. Also that USF game was more than a year ago. You’re telling me none of the other QBs advanced in a year?


Since you think that then it’s fact?


And I have no idea what the qb situation is there, just pointing out what happened last year which is a real fact.

Sue me….
Posted by collegefootballisbroken
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:07 pm to
What really made me believe it was when Milroe was injured and came out for a play then quickly came back out to replace Ty. It’s as if Milroe didn’t want Ty to show any type of potential and have fans asking question. The game was over and Milroe should have been held out for the next game, if he’s really the best option.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:10 pm to
I doubt that.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:11 pm to
Saban benched Milroe last season against USF and let Buchner and Simpson split the game. After that performance most fans were clamoring to put Milroe back in.

The truth is, I think Milroe is the best option. You can’t make me believe both Saban and Deboer decided not to play the guy they thought gave Alabama the best chance to win games.

I think the plan was for Julian Sayin to be the heir, but the transfer portal said otherwise.

I think the reason there is so much bad play is the portal. Teams don’t have viable backups because most skilled backups are transferring. And without a couple of years to learn a system there is sloppy play and little chemistry. Many if not most first year starters, especially if it is their first year, struggle at times. They are essentially true freshmen. And it is rare for a true freshman to not make some bonehead plays and cost their team a game or two. I don’t know the current number, but according to this article out of the 68 power schools, 43 of them were starting the season with a transfer QB. That is a crazy number, 43 of 68.

quote:

In all, 43 transfer quarterbacks are projected to start among the 68 power conference teams — a 63% clip that is perhaps the most glaring sign yet of the transient era of college football. Thirty of those 43 projected transfer starters are in their first year at their new school.


QB Transfers Have Taken Over College Football

That is why quarterback play is down.

I hope A) Keelon Russell honors his commitment to Alabama and B) he is everything he is cracked up to be.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:42 pm to
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You’re telling me none of the other QBs advanced in a year?


Tell me you never watched Tyler Buchner play without telling me you never watched Tyler Buchner play. He seemed to get worse for three straight years. Just watching him against USF, one would have thought that was his first day to pick up a football. Hell, maybe the first time to even see a football. It was like watching fans kick on Game Day.

A lot of QB recruits seem to hit the ceiling quickly in college. Whether they just don’t have the arm strength or the decision making ability, they just can’t make the jump from high school to college.

There are tons of examples of quarterbacks not improving from one year to the next. Milroe doesn’t seem to have made much improvement. Why is it such a far fetched idea the guy behind him hasn’t either?

Eli Holstein might have been the answer. But he transferred and and is starting for Pitt.

Julian Sayin might have been the answer. But he transferred to Ohio State.

This is the new college football. If you have two or three QB recruits, you better pick the correct one to ride with because all the rest will almost certainly transfer.

Which brings me to Simpson. Maybe he has stuck around out of loyalty and hope that he can win the starting job. If so I applaud him. But maybe, just maybe, he hasn’t had too much interest from other teams because of what they have seen from him. Maybe they don’t think he is a good quarterback. If he were so dazzling, why wouldn’t ha decide to go make a cool million dollars or more by transferring?
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:47 pm to
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What really made me believe it was when Milroe was injured and came out for a play then quickly came back out to replace Ty. It’s as if Milroe didn’t want Ty to show any type of potential and have fans asking question


Are you on a first name basis with Ty Simpson. JamalMurry…is that you? Opry… do you have a new account?

I see you just registered this account yesterday and this thread is your entire post history so far. Very strange for a South Carolina fan. Strange indeed. Regardless, I bet you do like cocks.
Posted by Crimson K
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
Are you thinking the guarantee is to the player or the money men funding their NIL and wanting to see the guy they paid for play?
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:15 pm to
Supposedly a Vol commit wants his NIL money upfront before he sets foot on campus and wants guarantees about starting and recruiting or he will flip. His handler is pushing it but it will not happen. No way they pay a guy that’s not even on campus a full agreement. A) that’s not how NIL works, and B) there is nothing to stop him from double dipping and flipping anyway.
Posted by John Casey
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Also if SCAR beats Clemson we better be in.


Not if Bama and Ole Miss also win.
Posted by Crimson K
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:19 pm to
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Supposedly a Vol commit wants his NIL money upfront before he sets foot on campus


That dude sounds like a future team cancer. Like he wants the whole 4 year amount or just 1 season? Either one is crazy, but I’m just wondering how much audacity the kid has.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:30 pm to
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You cannot convince me that Milroe would have stayed in the game otherwise. Milroe is only one example. There is terrible QB play happening all over the country and it seems the HC just leaves the starter in with no thought of changing QBs.

DeBoer is no Saban, but there’s no way he’s stupid enough to think Milroe is an actual QB who can run his offense. There are guaranteed starter deals being made.


The schools and coaches do not make NIL deals, so it's impossible that the coaching staffs are enforcing NIL rules in any legal sense.

And since Milroe was the starting QB DeBoer inherited, it's more likely that he's just the best QB available. If you look at who we've had developing QB's over the last few years of Saban's career, is it really that shocking?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Supposedly a Vol commit wants his NIL money upfront before he sets foot on campus and wants guarantees about starting and recruiting or he will flip. His handler is pushing it but it will not happen. No way they pay a guy that’s not even on campus a full agreement. A) that’s not how NIL works, and B) there is nothing to stop him from double dipping and flipping anyway.


NIL deals aren't supposed to be signed until they are on campus, but these days it seems like people just do whatever.

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