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Case study on punishing the SEC Champ game loser

Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:17 pm
2017 CFP rankings week of the conference champ games

2. Auburn
5. Alabama

Not to mention auburn beat bama the last week of the year

Auburn plays the SEC champ game and loses while bama sits idle. The committee drops auburn out of the playoffs and moves Bama in

Not sure why people are thinking this would be unheard of or crazy. They already set the dumbass precedent of doing it
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:19 pm to
Every example you can come up with would have the SECCG loser still in the 12 team playoff.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:19 pm to
2018 and 2023 are more examples of the SECC costing a team a playoff bid.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:19 pm to
Yeah. In a four team playoff.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Every example you can come up with would have the SECCG loser still in the 12 team playoff.
I truly don’t know if you are really this dumb

It proves they don’t care about “punishing” a conf game participant for someone who didn’t even make it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:21 pm to
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Yeah. In a four team playoff.
Im truly perplexed if y’all don’t get it

The amount of teams has zero bearing. It clearly shows they are willing to punish teams for playing on the conf champ game.

“Guys, it’s ok to punish teams for losing a conf champ game with a team that sat idle in a 4 team playoff but now that it’s 12 teams it’s so totally unfair”

I mean seriously is that y’all’s argument?
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:22 pm to
You do realize that 4 and 12 are two very different numbers, right? That’s what I’m trying to get through to you. Of course losing championship games had a different outcome in a 4 team field.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103936 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:23 pm to
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through to you. Of course losing championship games had a different outcome in a 4 team field.
Seriously try and walk me through your logic

Why is it ok to punish a team in a 4 team playoff but not a 12?

Either it’s illogical or it isn’t
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:25 pm to
There were only 4 spots versus 12? And this is a two year “trial run” where the SEC and B10 have every capability of taking their ball and going home after 2026?

You do see that the situations are completely different, right?

Pick a year where the SECCG loser wouldn’t have made a 12 team field and we can talk
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

The amount of teams has zero bearing. It clearly shows they are willing to punish teams for playing on the conf champ game.


This isn’t true and in the past they’ve punished teams without a conf championship.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103936 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:26 pm to
No seriously yall can’t explain it

They moved a conf champ loser behind a team that sat idle. Period. The end. They are willing to do that. It’s been proven. The number is irrelevant
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18215 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:30 pm to
Why would you make a thread like this unless you are big mad?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84089 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:32 pm to
He seems very mad Tenn is outside looking in and idk why.
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:35 pm to
Shouldn’t you be masturbating to lsu women’s bball?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103936 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:36 pm to
Because people have this idea “the committee won’t punish a team for losing while another team sits idle”

Well they have don’t it multiple times. I just gave the most obvious one
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15181 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:37 pm to
You seem hung up on one very simple fact - previous championship game losers were knocked out of the playoffs. Yes, that’s a fact.

Now, you’re 100% convinced that trend will carry over to a completely new format, with 3x the spots, and a lot of leverage swinging in two conferences favors with no evidence other than “they did it with four teams!”

It’s just a bad argument.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103936 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:39 pm to
It’s a logical argument based on what they have done. The committee is not afraid of moving a cont champ game loser behind a team that sat idle

I personally think it makes no sense at all. It completely lacks any logic. But they have done it
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26247 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Auburn plays the SEC champ game and loses while bama sits idle. The committee drops auburn out of the playoffs and moves Bama in


Auburn was dropped to 7th. They would still be in had it been 12 teams.

Let your Bama hate go.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103936 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Auburn was dropped to 7th. They would still be in had it been 12 teams.
Jesus Christ.

Did they get dropped below teams that sat idle? Yes or no?

And they were dropped 5 spots right? Hmmmmmmm
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
quote:


Every example you can come up with would have the SECCG loser still in the 12 team playoff.


Why would you say that?

You have to go all the way back to... 2022... to get a scenario where the SECC title game loser would be left out of a 12 team playoff.

LSU was 17th in the ranking after losing the SECCG.
Before that you have 2016 (UF was 17th), 2015 (UF was 19th), 2014 (Mizzou was 16th), 2011 (UGA was 16th) and more.

But if you want a similar situation to Bama this year... let's look at losing teams in the SECCG who were 6th-8th coming in.

In 2006 Arkansas was 8th in the AP poll going into the SECCG. They were 12th after losing it.

That's it. That's the only comparable Bama has for a team going in to the SECCG ranked 6th-8th and losing.

Bama has to be at least 10th to make the playoff. 9th if Miami loses and the ACC champ is also ranked behind them.

I see it more likely than not that Bama would be left out unless some of the other top 10 teams pick up losses outside of their CCG's.
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