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Something I was thinking about - trick plays

Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:06 pm
In the 9 years Kirby’s been head coach, have we ever fallen for a double pass or flea flicker type play?

Texas was like the 3rd team to try it on us this season and I remember wondering why teams keep doing it.

When was the last time a play like that worked on us?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:19 pm to
There was the "philly special" play OU and baker ran on our goal line just before halftime of the rose bowl. Other than that though I can't really think of any.

That's something that doesn' get talked about much but really makes me appreciate the absolute hell out of kirby. We ALWAYS seem prepared. We don' always execute, and sure we give up points. But we rarely look like we just don' have a clue what's going on out there like we often did under grantham.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:33 pm to
Baker was catching passes in the endzone we were in at the Rose Bowl, I was like why was he running routes

Later found out.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:30 pm to
You’re right. I forgot about that.

Still, I’d wager that opposing teams are batting like .030 or less against us on trick plays under Kirby

It really is amazing we haven’t more DBs cheat on those plays. Crazy discipline
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:15 am to
quote:

There was the "philly special" play OU and baker ran on our goal line just before halftime of the rose bowl. Other than that though I can't really think of any.


Roquan saw what was happening and had to either play the ball carrier or drop back in pass defense. If he drops back, the guy walks in so he played the ball carrier. No one else was in position.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Roquan saw what was happening and had to either play the ball carrier or drop back in pass defense. If he drops back, the guy walks in so he played the ball carrier. No one else was in position.



Exactly which is why a run/pass option offense with a dual-threat QB can be so effective in college football.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Texas was like the 3rd team to try it on us this season and I remember wondering why teams keep doing it.


If their RB didn't drop the ball, that play would have gone for at least 25 yards.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 10:39 am to
That play was a prime example of pressure not resulting in a sack making the QB have a difficult release and resulting in a not great throw.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 11:00 am to
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If their RB didn't drop the ball, that play would have gone for at least 25 yards.


The RB was the 4th checkdown and wasn't expecting the pass. Three receivers went deep and all were covered.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 11:03 am to
Trick play always wondered about…

Hail Mary- Send everybody deep like typical to a pod but have one guys job be to run tangent to opposite corner last minute.QB chunks it to corner where nobody is. Possible increase odds of pass interference.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 1:45 pm to
The number of personal fouls for hits out of bounds is another stat that let's you know that these are the glory days.

We'd have more 15 yard penalties for late hits out of bounds in the first 2 games of the season when Richt was the coach than we do for the entire season now.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Trick play always wondered about…

Hail Mary- Send everybody deep like typical to a pod but have one guys job be to run tangent to opposite corner last minute.QB chunks it to corner where nobody is. Possible increase odds of pass interference.


Offense is allowed 5 eligible receivers. Defense is allowed 11 defenders if they choose to not rush anyone. Hail Mary's aren't really trick plays, they are desperation plays as time expires, a spin of the roulette wheel with very low odds, but the only choice you have left. It's called a Hail Mary because it's a prayer to Heaven you get lucky and pull it off.

But as you said, there usually is one eligible receiver that will spin off away from the pack on every HM play I recall seeing. QB usually doen't throw it there because it's usually covered, and opts to throw it into the pack for a lucky catch or PI.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 3:47 pm to
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But as you said, there usually is one eligible receiver that will spin off away from the pack on every HM play I recall seeing. QB usually doen't throw it there because it's usually covered, and opts to throw it into the pack for a lucky catch or PI.


Agree rig. What I don’t usually see on this desperation play is the guy take off away from the scrum as much to opposite corner.

That said, loved our flee flicker and miss Stafford tucking the ball behind his back.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 4:58 pm to
We've been beaten on at least one fake punt where the punter was able to make a long gain around the end when all of our defenders were running away from the line of scrimmage. I think that was at home against Ole Miss last year. Ole Miss failed to get another first down on the following series.
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