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Watched some film study videos on the Bama/UGA game.....scary how good Milroe is, but
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:17 am
there is some hope.
- DeBoer has Milroe making good reads, going through progressions, doing stuff they couldn't get him to do well last year.
- If he plays the way he played vs. us at the start of the game, your offense better be capable of scoring a lot on their defense. You can't stop him if he's throwing the ball that well.
- That said, there were plays to be made in both halves that we didn't make on their secondary that would've been explosives, possibly TDs.
- If Arian Smith does what he's supposed to do on the play that ended up being Bama's first INT of the night, it's a huge gain and likely a TD. It was an all out blitz, half of their defense was up field and the guys on his side were blocked. There was a safety who may could have brought him down but he was on the the other side of the field and Arian's 100 has been clocked at 10.10 at an NCAA track event.
-Even on plays that were positives for Georgia in the first and second half there were at least four plays that could've been bigger, maybe TDs had Beck seen them. On in particular, he tucks it and runs, but before he decides to do that if he had just seen it a WR is a good two yards behind his man streaking down the sidelines. Of course Smith dropped one like that earlier, so maybe he drops that one too. But still, ball should've gone that way. Were down mutliple scores and those are the kind of plays that get you back in the game.
-If Milroe throws the ball better on the tipped pass the 17 year old caught it's a straight TD with no tip by Starks. He also kept the ball when he should've given it to his RB on a read. The RB would've scored. Bama settled for a FG.
- On the play where Bell scored the go ahead TD, Bobo saw something in Bama's defense earlier that let him know they could beat them. Safety kind of gets to his spot after the snap and squats a little which makes it pretty easy to put a little move on him and get past him. They saw it on tape before the game. Ran a play to see if he would kind of squat, but didn't put the move on him during the earlier part of the game and then waited until that moment to put it on him for the go ahead TD.
- Georgia had some bad play from the OL. Not necessarily in getting beat hat on hat, but simply not picking up the guy you were supposed to block. Freaking tackle helps the guard double team a guy on the inside and lets the DE get a free run on the QB. WTH? Guard tries to help the tackle block the DE and just lets the blitzer right in front of him get another free run. I don't get it.
- Alabama played the same way both halves. No adjustments. Not saying they should have early on, but even as Georgia inched closer, nothing really changed much. Even snapping the ball with tons of time left on the play clock. I don't know, maybe DeBoer feels slowing things down hurts the rhythm, but they were never in rhythm much anyway in the second half.
-Georgia played a lot of 3-3-5 in the second half and brought a safety down closer to the line of scrimmage to try to preven Milroe from breaking long runs on the outside. Worked well. But maybe even bigger than that was that there were a lot less missed tackles.
-No real adjustments made by Bama defensively either. They mostly play single high safety and give you that look presnap almost every time. Occasionally they morph into something else post snap that did fool Beck a few times.
-Guy who did the film study wasn't saying it was necessarily bad that Bama didn't make adjustments on defense. Said you have a blueprint of what you are, you learn to do it well and you do it. But did say that some of the same stuff that was open in the second half was there in the first half, but Beck didn't see it or maybe didn't have as much time to see it.
-Everyone is gonna have a problem with Milroe. But I would think Tennessee and LSU especially are probably gonna make a good many explosive plays on Bama's secondary though.
- They are pretty good at changing things up on D post snap at times, so I wouldn't be shocked if Auburn has five ints in the first half.
- DeBoer has Milroe making good reads, going through progressions, doing stuff they couldn't get him to do well last year.
- If he plays the way he played vs. us at the start of the game, your offense better be capable of scoring a lot on their defense. You can't stop him if he's throwing the ball that well.
- That said, there were plays to be made in both halves that we didn't make on their secondary that would've been explosives, possibly TDs.
- If Arian Smith does what he's supposed to do on the play that ended up being Bama's first INT of the night, it's a huge gain and likely a TD. It was an all out blitz, half of their defense was up field and the guys on his side were blocked. There was a safety who may could have brought him down but he was on the the other side of the field and Arian's 100 has been clocked at 10.10 at an NCAA track event.
-Even on plays that were positives for Georgia in the first and second half there were at least four plays that could've been bigger, maybe TDs had Beck seen them. On in particular, he tucks it and runs, but before he decides to do that if he had just seen it a WR is a good two yards behind his man streaking down the sidelines. Of course Smith dropped one like that earlier, so maybe he drops that one too. But still, ball should've gone that way. Were down mutliple scores and those are the kind of plays that get you back in the game.
-If Milroe throws the ball better on the tipped pass the 17 year old caught it's a straight TD with no tip by Starks. He also kept the ball when he should've given it to his RB on a read. The RB would've scored. Bama settled for a FG.
- On the play where Bell scored the go ahead TD, Bobo saw something in Bama's defense earlier that let him know they could beat them. Safety kind of gets to his spot after the snap and squats a little which makes it pretty easy to put a little move on him and get past him. They saw it on tape before the game. Ran a play to see if he would kind of squat, but didn't put the move on him during the earlier part of the game and then waited until that moment to put it on him for the go ahead TD.
- Georgia had some bad play from the OL. Not necessarily in getting beat hat on hat, but simply not picking up the guy you were supposed to block. Freaking tackle helps the guard double team a guy on the inside and lets the DE get a free run on the QB. WTH? Guard tries to help the tackle block the DE and just lets the blitzer right in front of him get another free run. I don't get it.
- Alabama played the same way both halves. No adjustments. Not saying they should have early on, but even as Georgia inched closer, nothing really changed much. Even snapping the ball with tons of time left on the play clock. I don't know, maybe DeBoer feels slowing things down hurts the rhythm, but they were never in rhythm much anyway in the second half.
-Georgia played a lot of 3-3-5 in the second half and brought a safety down closer to the line of scrimmage to try to preven Milroe from breaking long runs on the outside. Worked well. But maybe even bigger than that was that there were a lot less missed tackles.
-No real adjustments made by Bama defensively either. They mostly play single high safety and give you that look presnap almost every time. Occasionally they morph into something else post snap that did fool Beck a few times.
-Guy who did the film study wasn't saying it was necessarily bad that Bama didn't make adjustments on defense. Said you have a blueprint of what you are, you learn to do it well and you do it. But did say that some of the same stuff that was open in the second half was there in the first half, but Beck didn't see it or maybe didn't have as much time to see it.
-Everyone is gonna have a problem with Milroe. But I would think Tennessee and LSU especially are probably gonna make a good many explosive plays on Bama's secondary though.
- They are pretty good at changing things up on D post snap at times, so I wouldn't be shocked if Auburn has five ints in the first half.
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:25 am to koreandawg
If Alabama cleans up the silly and needless penalties we salt the game away about midway through the third quarter. I know there were at least two fourth-down conversions that we gifted you with flags.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:26 am to koreandawg
Ohio State has the talent to beat Alabama, but our defense must contain Milroe and prevent him from beating us with his legs.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:29 am to koreandawg
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-Everyone is gonna have a problem with Milroe.
Amazing how Jalen Milroe's stock has improved since he did this against Georgia. The media has him as the Heisman favorite and the NFL experts and even Mel Kiper today now has Jalen going as a possible first pick in the NFL draft.
The only problem Jalen had last season was playing for the worst OC in the Saban era. Now, there is no hesitation and he's processing the entire field, and as he demonstrated vs Georgia, he is hitting the check-down and intermediate throws. The dawgs couldn't keep him in the pocket. They are the most dangerous and explosive offense in college football.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:31 am to koreandawg
DeBoer has proven to be astonishingly good at the beginning of big games. Dating back to his first year at Washington, he’s average 21 first half points against ranked teams. If you only account for this year and last, that number is 27
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:31 am to TheTideMustRoll
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If Alabama cleans up the silly and needless penalties we salt the game away about midway through the third quarter. I know there were at least two fourth-down conversions that we gifted you with flags.
I know in previous games our offensive penalties killed our own drives as well, but don't recall if we had any die in this game because of them.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:32 am to koreandawg
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But I would think Tennessee and LSU especially are probably gonna make a good many explosive plays on Bama's secondary though.
Bama has three DBs in the rotation that are freshmen. They have had troubles with receivers getting open quite a bit in the early season but had not really been punished for it until UGA second half. I think in a painful way that second half was good for Bama’s secondary and defensive coaching staff. Players were penalized for mistakes and will learn from it. Coaches got a bit conservative and pressured Beck very little in the second half and it exposed the secondary. They should also learn from that.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:33 am to TheTideMustRoll
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If Alabama cleans up the silly and needless penalties we salt the game away about midway through the third quarter. I know there were at least two fourth-down conversions that we gifted you with flags.
I know the two you are talking about, but if you don't commit PI, Cash probably catches it and converts.
Hard to say what would've happened if you don't jump offsides cause we just threw it downfield knowing we got the penalty.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:35 am to elposter
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Coaches got a bit conservative and pressured Beck very little in the second half and it exposed the secondary. They should also learn from that.
That part is not true. It's on film. You brought pressure, but didn't get home as much. We did a better job of picking it up, though both of those WTH are you doing moments by the OL were in the second half.
Also, Georgia was in better spots to make you not blitz in the second half by not falling behind the sticks. Blitzes are called more often when you are behind the sticks because it forces the QB to get the ball out quicker and not go downfield past the first down marker.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:37 am to koreandawg
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koreandawg
Interesting read, thanks for posting.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:41 am to koreandawg
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That part is not true. It's on film. You brought pressure, but didn't get home as much.
Not accusing you of being untrue, but I'd have to see numbers of plays where we brought additional pressure in the first half versus the second half before I'd believe this. In my admittedly bourbon-addled memory, I recall seeing us only rush three or four a lot after halftime.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:42 am to koreandawg
Even Kirby said that evaluating UGAs second half O is near impossible. In a tight game there’s no way Kirby goes for it on fourth down five different times. A four down mindset for an entire half is hard to defend and scheme for. My biggest complaint was that Bama didn’t use clock late and didn’t try to heat up Beck in the fourth.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:44 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Not accusing you of being untrue, but I'd have to see numbers of plays where we brought additional pressure in the first half versus the second half before I'd believe this. In my admittedly bourbon-addled memory, I recall seeing us only rush three or four a lot after halftime.
This. Kane Wommack even alluded to this in his presser.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:46 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Not accusing you of being untrue, but I'd have to see numbers of plays where we brought additional pressure in the first half versus the second half before I'd believe this. In my admittedly bourbon-addled memory, I recall seeing us only rush three or four a lot after halftime.
Well. what I saw he showed a bunch of plays where you still blitzed. But as I added to the post, blitzes are gonna be more commonly called when you are in second and third and long. We weren't in those situation much in the second half. And because were going four downs, we ran third and fourth down like it was second and third.
You wouldn't want to blitz a QB on second and five or third and two very often if he knows what do with the football. In teh second half that was third and five and fourth and two. You absolutely brought it on the one fourth and semi long we converted. He just threw a perfect pass into tight coverage. The other fourth downs were short.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:52 am to skrayper
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I know in previous games our offensive penalties killed our own drives as well, but don't recall if we had any die in this game because of them.
None that stalled drives.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:52 am to Bamafig
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Even Kirby said that evaluating UGAs second half O is near impossible. In a tight game there’s no way Kirby goes for it on fourth down five different times. A four down mindset for an entire half is hard to defend and scheme for. My biggest complaint was that Bama didn’t use clock late and didn’t try to heat up Beck in the fourth.
Not really. He was responding to a question about our inability to convert third downs and said you can't really look at third down conversion rate in the second half because we weren't simply calling a play to make a first down on those, we knew we were going for it. So on a third and 8, we knew we didn't have to reach the sticks to maintain possession.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:55 am to bamameister
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Amazing how Jalen Milroe's stock has improved since he did this against Georgia
It’s Georgia copium overdosing. They need it to not be about the fact their O is suspect and the D isn’t as dominant or as deep as it has been.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:58 am to bamameister
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Amazing how Jalen Milroe's stock has improved since he did this against Georgia. The media has him as the Heisman favorite and the NFL experts and even Mel Kiper today now has Jalen going as a possible first pick in the NFL draft.
He deserves it, dude needed a cape in that first quarter. He looked like he was playing Madden out there. Totally unstoppable
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:58 am to koreandawg
Good analysis.
Milroe improves week to week. That started last year.
That's what's scary.
Milroe improves week to week. That started last year.
That's what's scary.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:04 am to bamameister
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The only problem Jalen had last season was playing for the worst OC in the Saban era. Now, there is no hesitation and he's processing the entire field, and as he demonstrated vs Georgia, he is hitting the check-down and intermediate throws. The dawgs couldn't keep him in the pocket. They are the most dangerous and explosive offense in college football.
I mean, yeah that's part of it. DeBoer is one of the best offensive minds in football, so of course. This was his best game so far in his career. It's not close.
Still, had the near two quarter nothing on offense though. And he didn't burn us running much in the second half with the adjustments.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 11:05 am
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