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Under this new format, how many times will SEC teams have to play each other?

Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:56 am
Depending on how the season plays out, I could see either UGA, TX, OM or Bama having to play each other 2 or 3 times if you factor in the SEC Championship. That’ll get pretty weird….especially if you have a TN or LSU also sneak in there by seasons end.

I don’t think that’s what they were planning on.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
7424 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:30 am to
I’ve thought about this a good bit and the possibilities are endless.
Someone had a thread either here or on the rant about if it would actually be better to miss the seccg and still make the playoffs. I’m not sure what the answer is.
There’s so many SEC teams that look good right now I wonder how many they will actually let in.
You could put the sec champion in the top 4. And easily fill half of the remaining slots with sec teams that have a good chance to advance to the next round.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26356 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:47 am to
2 times will be common, 3 times won't be that rare oftentimes....

Hell in '17 we played AU twice in just a few weeks, lost regular season and won the SECCG....
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88606 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:35 pm to
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I don’t think that’s what they were planning on.


"they" don't care about a single thing at all besides money. It's very possible for teams to play 3 times over the course of a season which is utterly stupid but as long as it makes money they don't care.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2088 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:57 pm to
This possibility could affect Kirby's strategic planning. I know this is putting the cart before the horse but Uga-UT could feature 1 vs 2 in this year’s version of the game of the century. In years past the winner of that game would have a decided inside track moving forward. This year not so much. The loser could actually have a psychological advantage in a rematch with higher stakes- see uga-bama 2021.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88606 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 1:09 pm to
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his possibility could affect Kirby's strategic planning.


how so? He's certainly not going to take a dive and intentionally not try to win

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The loser could actually have a psychological advantage in a rematch with higher stakes- see uga-bama 2021.


We won the rematch because we were th ebetter team, just like we were the best team in america the entire season. One thing that I'll never understand as long as I live is why we completely and totally changed our entire defensive scheme in the SECCG. All season we played tight man coverage and let our NFL fron 7 get after people. In the SECCG we did the exact opposite; we played a lot more zone and exclusively tried to contain Bryce from running. Watch a replay, there are MANY instances of our DL simply standin gup and hanging out after the snap just to not let bryce run. It was absolute lunacy and we were carved up. In the title game we did what we did in the other 13 games and we held them to a signle touchdown.

And wouldn' ya know it we went full retard again 9 months ago in the SECCG by having the seldom (if ever?) seen double spy on milroe. I really, REALLY hope that kirby's mental hangup is a saban thing and not an alabama thing, because I don' think I can stomach watching us completely overhaul an entire side of the ball against them again.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3369 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:44 pm to
Exactly. I will never understand why we did a complete 180 on the scheme that we had dominated with all season and went to that no rush and contain the QB scheme. I believe we would have won that game by 10+ had we danced with the one that brought us.

And then we do similar scheme, as you said, in last years SECCG. Mind blowing. I remember sitting in the stadium talking out loud to myself “no way we are doing this crap again. WTF!” and several other ways to express the same bewilderment.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88606 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:53 pm to
Bewildering is a great way to put it.

Hopefully now that saban is gone that mental hex will be gone too.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10709 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:05 pm to
Politics will kick in and they will occasionally screw the SECC loser..justifying that they just played and dropping the loser down while another team rises up. Similar to what happened to us last year.

Generally, the SECC loser should always be in.

They might get dropped out of hosting a home game.

Championship games either need to go away or be directly tied to seeding with those two teams occupying a loser and a winner seed BEFORE the game is played
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:59 pm to
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Hell in '17 we played AU twice in just a few weeks, lost regular season and won the SECCG....


... then played the King Of Cheaters in the NC game and got cheated big time.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 4:13 pm to
We also used 2 players that were injured when we should have saved them for the Playoff. I think the WR group could have handled the job without Ladd and we could have used Daijon as a sub for Bowers for blocking and short passes.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2088 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:56 pm to
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how so? He's certainly not going to take a dive and intentionally not try to win


Not suggesting that at all. But the new situation does change the calculus. I remember 1985 Georgetown beat villanova twice during the regular season and then lost to them in the ncaa tournament finals. Maybe he dials down the intensity of prep for Austin, tells the kids play hard and have fun, doesn’t go all in with schematic wrinkles etc.

On a related note the Tex folks are feeling salty, talking shite, acting all high and mighty. I guess it makes their inclusion in the conference interesting but I can see why they have been hated in their previous conferences.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 6:03 am to
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Someone had a thread either here or on the rant about if it would actually be better to miss the seccg and still make the playoffs. I’m not sure what the answer is.


If you are certain that you will still make the playoff then the answer in my mind is a resounding yes if only for the fact that you know that game would cause some injuries.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
7424 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 8:29 am to
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If you are certain that you will still make the playoff then the answer in my mind is a resounding yes if only for the fact that you know that game would cause some injuries


So if you win the SECCG and you get in the top 4 you get a BYE in the first round and go to the quarter final.
Then you have a semi final and if you win you’re in the championship so that’s 4 games.
If you miss the seccg you go to the first round and I guess you could possibly get a home game. Plus more time to prepare. Then quarter semi and championship. Still 4 games.
Worst case is to lose the seccg and still make the playoffs because you’d then be playing 5 post season games to win a championship. 17 game season is insane.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88606 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:47 am to
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We also used 2 players that were injured when we should have saved them for the Playoff.


Nobody in america would have beaten us in the playoffs so the SECCG essentially was the natty from our perspective. You don't rest guys on the bench in hopes they'll be used later. It sucks that ladd and brock weren't 100% but we needed them. That's fotball though, sometimes you're fortunate with inuruies and sometimes not, ,oh well.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:14 am to
Brock should have sat until the SECCG. Playing him before that and having him aggravate the ankle was the mistake.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88606 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:16 am to
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Brock should have sat until the SECCG. Playing him before that and having him aggravate the ankle was the mistake.


I know it's easy to say that now but ole miss was ranked in the top 10 and was a very formidable opponent.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:25 am to
It was the Tenn game where he reinjured it. But yeah, obviously hindsight is what it is. I think at that point a loss to either ole miss or Tenn doesn't hurt us as much as SECCG did obviously.

I know Brock wanted to play and Kirby would never not go full bore to win a game, but going forward that's going to be part of the strategy to consider.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38105 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 2:39 pm to
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would actually be better to miss the seccg and still make the playoffs. I’m not sure what the answer is.


A rematch with bama in seccg or Tulane at home in December? Not a tough choice.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10709 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:27 pm to
Almost every scenario says the extra week off and a potential home game is better bs playing one of the best teams in the Country.

Especially given that who wins has recently been as much about the health of key players as anything else.
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