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Aaron Murray breaks down Milroe vs USF
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:28 am
As expected watching it again some obvious issues
1. O-line gets whipped badly in the passing game a lot
2. WRs dont get a lot of separation
3. Probably due to down and distance but basically offense is 4 verts
4. Jalen missed a few throws, but it really was not as bad as it seemed
If the O-line plays this bad every week, we will not win much with whoever is playing QB. Obviously things will change with the starters back in
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:32 am to UltimaParadox
But you gotta remember this. The playcalling was vanilla. I would not worry right now.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:43 am to Panthers4life
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The playcalling was vanilla.
What they are capable of calling because of limitations at QB is vanilla.
Do you really think DeBoer was protecting the playbook at the risk of losing to USF at home on the night the field was named after CNS with CNS in the stands watching the game ? The entire season was up in the air after 3 quarters of football- they were doing everything they could to win that game.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:45 am to UltimaParadox
Great breakdown.
It's funny that when people who actually know what they're saying breakdown the film they agree with what some of us say during the game and post.
It's funny that when people who actually know what they're saying breakdown the film they agree with what some of us say during the game and post.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:46 am to PowHound
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What they are capable of calling because of limitations at QB is vanilla.
Do you really think DeBoer was protecting the playbook at the risk of losing to USF at home on the night the field was named after CNS with CNS in the stands watching the game ? The entire season was up in the air after 3 quarters of football- they were doing everything they could to win that game
You think KDB is going to run exotic plays against USF?
FFS he kept out Pritchett who could have played for Formby and wasn't going to let him play until Formby almost single-handedly killed the team.
I see it doesn't matter who says it you guys just don't like Milroe and only agree with what confirms your bias.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:53 am to Panthers4life
The line will not play that badly again. It almost feels like the staff moved people around to see how it would work before finally putting Prichett in and putting USF away.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 8:59 am to YStar
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what some of us say during the game
And what would that be exactly ? I know you're a big Milroe guy, and you think those of us that feel like Milroe belongs at Georgia Southern and not at the helm of the Crimson Tide are idiots.
Milroe was strip sacked on the third play of the season after an entire off season dedicated to not being a turnover machine. He fumbled the ball inside the 5. He called for the ball to be snapped while the center was still making adjustments to the line causing a high snap turnover.
What do you think about his footwork ? What do you think about his ability to climb up in the pocket ? Are you seeing him use proper footwork, and climb the pocket and get throws out on time ? Are you ?
Do you think he has a firm grip on what the defenses are doing pre snap ?
Do you think Milroe could run the same offense that DeBoer ran last year at Washington with Penix ? If not,... why not ?
Trying to understand your POV. Thanks
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:11 am to PowHound
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And what would that be exactly ? I know you're a big Milroe guy, and you think those of us that feel like Milroe belongs at Georgia Southern and not at the helm of the Crimson Tide are idiots.
I'm not a big Milroe guy. I just want to win and whether you or I like it or not he is a good player and the best we have.
He makes mistakes which I will complain about during the game. I just say stuff when people say extreme nonsense like he can't read, we don't run plays because he can't throw slants, the team plays against others for him, etc.
The guy doesn't suck unlike what some idiots on here believe. He's actually a very good college QB which if he can put some things together could be great. The inconsistencies with the small things is what hurts him and us.
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What do you think about his footwork ? What do you think about his ability to climb up in the pocket ? Are you seeing him use proper footwork, and climb the pocket and get throws out on time ? Are you ?
His footwork is one of the things he needs to clean up and I have been critical of it. Check my post history.
He has gotten better but when Formby kept getting beat he just threw it all out the window and went back to quick happy feet. With that said he has learned to keep his eyes downfield... well sometimes.
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Do you think he has a firm grip on what the defenses are doing pre snap ?
Obviously he does. Go back and watch this breakdown.
His problem is he doesn't trust his WR so he doesn't throw to the open spot. He waits for them to get open then he throws. He has to trust them and throw to the spot they should be in.
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Do you think Milroe could run the same offense that DeBoer ran last year at Washington with Penix ? If not,... why not ?
We don't even know our really passing scheme because all we're running is clearouts (all fades), deep posts with a dig, etc.
We are VERY vanilla, we weren't even having our WR check down when their CBs were in deep man-coverage. All of this is basic stuff and I get why we are doing smoke and mirrors because we want to stun Georgia.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:12 am to YStar
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You think KDB is going to run exotic plays against USF?
Did you listen to CKDB presser after the game ? Im going to paraphrase from memory because I did listen to it but he basically said, " when you behind the chains, and constantly in third and long it's really hard to call plays."
"we were explosive in the first game, but we need to be able to grind out and sustain drives"
I guess CKDB is an idiot also ?
Milroe does not have the skill set to put together a 9 minute drive. It's a homerun or nothing. How sustainable do you think that is ? How far can that take us ? Has anyone ever won a title with that kind of offense ? The Crimson Tide was very familiar in this aspect Hurts first year with possibly the greatest defense in the history of college football and couldn't win a title. There was nothing special about MIchigans QB last season other than he would get them in the right play and move the chains... title. UGA won two titles with the goofiest goofy goober QB of all time simply because he moved the chains. How do you not see this ?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:16 am to YStar
I agree it feels a lot like people want Milroe to fail just so they can be right
He made mistakes yeah, but he also had like 130 yds erased early on due to Formby penalties. One was probably a hold, one was not. Neither were necessary. Regardless that's two explosive plays by Milroe that just don't get to count now even though neither "hold" was critical to the play
He made mistakes yeah, but he also had like 130 yds erased early on due to Formby penalties. One was probably a hold, one was not. Neither were necessary. Regardless that's two explosive plays by Milroe that just don't get to count now even though neither "hold" was critical to the play
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:16 am to PowHound
What part of what you said means KDB isn't running Vanilla plays?
We were literally behind the chains because we had two offensive linemen sabotage our run and pass game. Every big play called back for a hold or a false start isn't our QBs fault. The defender in front of the RT basically had a free shot at our QB and for some reason that is okay and should be ignored.
Lol why the hell do we need to have to do 9 minute drives? This isn't 1996 man.
The dumb shite I read on here...
We were literally behind the chains because we had two offensive linemen sabotage our run and pass game. Every big play called back for a hold or a false start isn't our QBs fault. The defender in front of the RT basically had a free shot at our QB and for some reason that is okay and should be ignored.
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Milroe does not have the skill set to put together a 9 minute drive.
Lol why the hell do we need to have to do 9 minute drives? This isn't 1996 man.
The dumb shite I read on here...
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:19 am to UltimaParadox
No clue if AAron is right but you’re going to get downvoted like hell because everything isn’t blamed on Milroe. And before I get downvoted like hell, I’ve switched up my thinking from Milroe is the clear cut #1 to Simpson deserves multiple drives in the first half vs wisky to show what he’s got. Oline was horrific but was expecting a decent jump from Milroe and honestly just don’t see any improvement. It’s time to give Simpson a shot.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:19 am to HighTide_ATL
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I agree it feels a lot like people want Milroe to fail just so they can be right
They want him to fail so badly.
Anything, it could be Law fumbling on the kick return and somehow it's because Milroe can't force DBs to not hold his WRs so he can get a pass off before the left DE tees off on his knees.
Milroe has his issues but so does every QB in the country. We just need him to clean up some of his messes like the footwork under pressure, fumbles and how he recovers and throwing to spots instead of waiting for WRs to get 1000% open.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:22 am to Firegolding
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And before I get downvoted like hell, I’ve switched up my thinking from Milroe is the clear cut #1 to Simpson deserves multiple drives in the first half vs wisky to show what he’s got.
I have learned if you're getting a lot of upvotes on this forum and the subject is football? You're probably saying some stupid which confirms the idiots biases
Yeah I said it
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:23 am to YStar
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Lol why the hell do we need to have to do 9 minute drives? This isn't 1996 man.
Because the teams able to sustain drives, protect the football and play good defense are the teams that win the natty every year.
Alabama, Michigan, Georgia, Clemson,... all these teams used that exact blueprint.
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The dumb shite I read on here...
I didn't know exactly how clueless you really are until this discussion. I usually just ignore you, but of course that guy that claims to know everything knows the least.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:24 am to PowHound
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PowHound
Your agenda is so tiring. You rarely, if ever, post when the team is playing well. But when they struggle, oh boy, you can't stop posting.
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Milroe does not have the skill set to put together a 9 minute drive. It's a homerun or nothing.
What is your obsession with this? Milroe doesn't dictate how long a drive is. A LOT of factors have to come together in order for there to be a long drive (e.g., the OL needs to block well enough that our RB isn't tackled at, or behind, the line of scrimmage, the defense needs to stop explosive plays, which is very hard to do with the athletes on Bama's offense, etc.). Next time RW catches an 8 yard hitch, do you want him to take a knee instead of taking it 40+ yards to the house so that Milroe can work on putting together a long drive? Next time the OL opens up a big hole for Jam, do you want him to take a knee after getting a first down so that Milroe can work on putting together a long drive?
I don't think anyone on this board thinks Milroe is perfect or doesn't have things he needs to work on, but your insistence that we can't win with him as the QB is just ridiculous.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:27 am to UltimaParadox
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2. WRs dont get a lot of separation
They had their jerseys getting pulled every pass play. I mean every pass.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:28 am to PowHound
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Milroe does not have the skill set to put together a 9 minute drive
Alabama 20 Georgia 17
10:09 4th Quarter, SEC Championship
Milroe goes 5-5 for 57 yards, 2 third down conversions, takes 5 minutes off the clock, and leads Alabama to the game sealing score against the #1 team in the country
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:29 am to YStar
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His problem is he doesn't trust his WR so he doesn't throw to the open spot. He waits for them to get open then he throws.
That has absolutely nothing to do with trust. You're talking about what separates NFL and natty level D1 QB's from the pack. The ability to anticipate and deliver the ball to where the WR is going to be BEFORE he gets open is the exact skill you have to have to be a NFL QB. Trust has nothing to do with it. He simply lacks the ability.
Washington didn't hide their playbook last year with Penix. Why would they hide their ability to throw the ball this year ? To surprise UGA ? Classic fan logic
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:31 am to Glorious
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Alabama 20 Georgia 17
10:09 4th Quarter, SEC Championship
Milroe goes 5-5 for 57 yards, 2 third down conversions, takes 5 minutes off the clock, and leads Alabama to the game sealing score against the #1 team in the country
In that game Bama had drives of:
8 plays
10 plays
9 plays
8 plays
9 plays
HoMeRuN oR nOtHiNg
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