re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting

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Reason is he created his own mess at LSU. 

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What mess?

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Then there is his average record of losing 3 games

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That's better than any of the other coaches, outside of Kirby. DeBoer also but he hasn't coached in the SEC yet.

Your coach averages 5.25 losses per year.

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losing a game or two that his team is favored.

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Literally every coach does this.

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Congrats on having the equivalent of every coach.

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I mean every coach does it, weird to attack BK as if he's the only one losing games he's favored in.

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I mean every coach does it, weird to attack BK as if he's the only one losing games he's favored in.

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That would be weird if I attacked him.

I said congrats.

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Was it bullshite when he said it? I want a running count of the Alabama fans who think Brian Kelly is full of shite for saying what he said and Nick Saban wasn't.



Nothing he said was bullshite. Alabama did not have a collective for that recruiting class, so he wasn't buying players with it. At the time, I think A&M was the only one with a collective.

He didn't like the shite so he retired, and I don't blame him. It's the entire reason he left the NFL, and now college football has turned into that.

If BK said - frick this shite, I'm not dealing with it anymore, I wouldn't blame him either. The entire thing sucks arse, but don't pretend like you aren't playing ball after you strike out.

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Ya'll are so full of shite it's coming out of your eyes. Pre-NIL and Post NIL head coaches knew and know now what amount of money or other inducements it would/will take to get a certain player to sign. Was Saban paying players? You're God damn right he was. Maybe not from his own pocketbook. But did he know what it would take to get them to sign? Absolutely. Were there buffers between him and the bag men? Absolutely. But he knew what it would take and made sure it happened.

I think the derision of Kelly is based on concerns of the potential he has at LSU. The fact that he failed to perform at a high level at Notre Dame is a concern but it needs context....Notre Dame has some constraints that do not exist at a normal program. That alone forces the question that given those constraints and the success he did have at ND is it not plausible that removing those constraints would lead to more success? There is also the recent history at ND...not great considering their sense of themselves and many in the CFB world....that includes several coaches, not just Kelly.

The derision also dismisses the mess Kelly inherited. If he never wins a natty (doubtful he doesn't) he has DEFINITELY righted the ship when it as about to hit the rocks and sink....in the same sense that Mark Richt did at UGA. I want to see Kelly and LSU fail miserably 'cause they ain't UGA but realistically pretending that LSU ain't in a good spot, especially considering where they were just a few years ago, is just foolish. Its one thing to deride Kelly simply because he is at LSU...thats fine....but to actually mean it is probably not being realistic....

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More wins here through 27 games than Saban had.

Much better here through 2 years than he was in South Bend.

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The problem I would be having at his point is, where is he going? And I noticed you didn't bother to put up the first few years of Les Miles's record and I don't blame you.

I don't like what he's building. When Coach Saban was in BR who was wondering about that in year 3, regardless of the record? Frankly, LSU just isn't scaring anyone. Your football program looks like Tennessee and Ole Miss for my money.

Where's the balance? Where's the toughness? Man, your program used to be scary. Do you ever miss that?

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Les took over a hilariously better situation

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He also had teams crapping in their pants. He coached what he had, and he had plenty of talent that he brought in and it wasn't pleasant for opponents. And he sustained it for a decade. Quit hating on the best coach you had.

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You don’t watch the games. How far they’ve come from the late O era is impressive.

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Your defense is jelly. Your defense is much worse than any of Les Miles's offenses. Bringing up Red Bull is just the Cajun's coping mechanism these days.

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Your defense is jelly. Your defense is much worse than any of Les Miles's offenses. Bringing up Red Bull is just the Cajun's coping mechanism these days.

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Our defensive staff has been dog shite since Aranda left for Baylor. That started with Orgeron. We've had a revolving door at DL coach for several years, which has been detrimental to recruiting. We didn't have a DL coach last year because the guy on staff had a serious illness. Kelly's first defensive staff hirings were poor. That has been rectified, but it's going to take a couple of years before it shows up on the field via recruiting and development.

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His record at Notre Dame and now at LSU proved he doesn't have the ability to be a championship caliber HC.

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This is one of the top 10 dumbest takes I've ever read on this site.