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re: Most overrated football coach in the SEC
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:15 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:15 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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The west is in ruins now. That's a fact.
Ole Miss is the new favorite to win it.
not Bana nor LSwho.
Before you always had at least two good top teams followed by one or two other fairly tough squads. That's the east now not the west.
Tennessee fans really are stuck in 1998.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:36 pm to 3down10
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The coaches prior to BK were pulling in top5-10 classes. Showed this before, not doing it again.
Not consistently.
You cherry picked a class or two and used that to state they were pulling in elite classes.
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You keep making excuses for BK
I'm just giving you the facts, sir.
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while wondering why nobody else is impressed by him. The only way anyone is changing their opinions is if he actually goes out and fricking does something other than stupid shite like "2nd best record in conference" like it actually means something.
I frankly don't care if you're actually impressed with him or not.
I'm just pointing out some of the dumb arguments in this thread.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:49 pm to Nate Forrest
Are all the Tennessee fans here still in junior high school?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:56 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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The west is in ruins now. That's a fact.
It is a fact. The west has been dismantled, decimated, destroyed. It literally no longer exists.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:42 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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The west is in ruins now. That's a fact.
Wait til I tell you the West isn’t a thing anymore.
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Ole Miss is the new favorite to win it.
not Bana nor LSwho.
Tennessee was the favorite to win it. Like Ole Miss, they are not capable of winning it and will always screw it up. And like Ole Miss fans, they do not know what it means to pull for a successful team, which is why you make woulda coulda shoulda statements. LSU would’ve been in the title game if LSU had a top 50 ranked defense. LSU would’ve won the title in 2011 if Bama hadn’t gotten a Bamagan like they always get every few years.
Winning and losing is a black and white thing. Unfortunately your team is on the bad side of that, and I’ve yet to see any sign of that changing, ever.
Take a lap.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Not consistently.
You cherry picked a class or two and used that to state they were pulling in elite classes.
False, the only time they didn't have such a class was between coaching changes. Which was somewhat frequent because they replaced coaches every 3 years.
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I frankly don't care if you're actually impressed with him or not.
I'm just pointing out some of the dumb arguments in this thread.
It's not just me, it's basically everyone who watches college football and isn't an LSU fan. And it's been said about him before he was ever hired by LSU, probably LSU fans saying it then too.
The only one making dumb arguments is you bragging about some filtered stat that magically removed like half his losses in the past 2 years.
If he loses 3 or 4 games again this season, you still going to say he's not over-rated? Maybe this will be the year he breaks out of his 20 year trend. He certainly has the resources and everything he needs to do it. But I'm not holding my breathe and I'm not going to pretend like he's done it yet either.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:30 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
Strange thread.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:39 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
Whose alter are you?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:50 am to TN Tygah
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Tennessee was the favorite to win it. Like Ole Miss, they are not capable of winning it and will always screw it up. And like Ole Miss fans, they do not know what it means to pull for a successful team, which is why you make woulda coulda shoulda statements. LSU would’ve been in the title game if LSU had a top 50 ranked defense. LSU would’ve won the title in 2011 if Bama hadn’t gotten a Bamagan like they always get every few years.
Winning and losing is a black and white thing. Unfortunately your team is on the bad side of that, and I’ve yet to see any sign of that changing, ever.
Have you seen LSU play the last 2 years? Brian Kelly is your HC. He made the hires. He made the calls on the field. He had blown a game or two he shouldn't have when the team is favored. This is the same Brian Kelly who did the same thing at Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 2:43 am
Posted on 4/23/24 at 2:11 am to SidewalkTiger
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Posters are saying Kelly is overrated, but he has the second highest win percentage in the conference.
Make it make sense.
Would have made sense if LSU had made the playoffs or had gone to a major bowl game.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 2:31 am to SidewalkTiger
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You mean since Brian Kelly started coaching at Notre Dame they haven't been stacking elite talent.
Weren't doing it before him and haven't did it since him either.
Where was Notre Dame being ranked since Kelly left? The new HC was his first ever as a HC. He would need time to build a top 10 roster that can be a top 10 team regularly. So, if Freeman can do it then does that make him a great coach too?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:02 am to TrueLefty
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Where was Notre Dame being ranked since Kelly left? The new HC was his first ever as a HC. He would need time to build a top 10 roster that can be a top 10 team regularly. So, if Freeman can do it then does that make him a great coach too?
Maybe, maybe not.
If he continues this for the next decade, yes.
That said, there is a long list of coaches who took over a winning program, had success at the beginning of their tenure and then tanked.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:26 am to gamecockman12
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The last time Tennessee played LSU it was pretty easy for them if I recall as well.
Not near as easy as it’s been for LSU beating usce. 1 win for your school over LSU in my life.
Have a seat.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:27 am to TN Tygah
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:43 am to DirtyCreekBottoms
Nebraska and Tenn on this list. There goes the credibility
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:02 am to DirtyCreekBottoms
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DirtyCreekBottoms
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Bana
Why is this familiar?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:26 am to Choot em Tiger
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Brian Kelly 74% win percentage in SEC
Josh Huepel 58% win percentage in SEC
SEC win % for each program in 5 years leading up to each coach taking over. Note...using on-field records, since Tennessee had to vacate all wins from 2019 and 2020.
Tennessee - 2016-2020 - 33% (14-28)
LSU - 2017-2021 - 64% (27-15)
So, Brian Kelly has increased LSU's conference winning percentage by 10% over the previous 5 years. Josh Heupel has increased Tennessee's conference winning percentage by 25%.
Now let's look at transfer portal losses and gains leading up to their first season.
2022 - LSU gained 15 and lost 17 - Net loss 2
2021 - Tennessee gained 10 and lost 37 - Net loss 27
So...Heupel inherited a worse program and was decimated by the transfer portal.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:29 am to DirtyCreekBottoms
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Where is LSU on this list? All time winning teams
From the article:
Claimed national championships: 1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998
Actually just two and they’re nearly 50 years apart. AP/Coaches/BCS/CFP or it didn’t happen.
LOL, what a legacy.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:16 am to madmaxvol
Heupel coaches circles around that creepy recruit grinder.
People thought 2022 was a flash in the pan year?
They are about to find out these next two seasons especially how sadly mistaken they are.
People thought 2022 was a flash in the pan year?
They are about to find out these next two seasons especially how sadly mistaken they are.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 8:47 am
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