re: Kadyn Proctor expected to leave Iowa, return to Alabama

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When you lose that bet this screen name will. I'll get Taylor and his little dog too

All that shite talking both of you do. You MIGHT have the cojones. He doesn't.

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I'm not ban betting you, baw.

Everyone knows ban bets are against the rules.

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Dumb is thinking that a kid who still can’t decide where he wants to be in late March isn’t going to potentially be a major headache.

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dude already started a full season as a true freshman, and by the end was good to very good. Had a great game against Georgia for instance. Why would you think he isn't going to start somewhere on the same line? It's just wishful thinking, the guy is incredibly talented, and if he can improve his body composition more is an NFL caliber ol down the road. We have both tackle spots open, it's a pretty good chance one of them is going to be proctor if he does transfer back, and it's going to mean bama has a high chance of having a really good or even great oline. Even if he doesn't get any better the system will make him look better. He wont have to hold up in pass protection nearly as long as last year, deboer QBs get the ball out quick

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That could happen today and would happen today if these players were worth the money.

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It hasn’t needed to happen. But NFL players would be developed with or without the college game.

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But at least you are admitting they need to be developed before going to the NFL, that's progress. Now let's see if you can admit that the schools pay good money to be able to provide the best levels of that development.

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And the future NFL stars give the schools a hell of a lot better product to put on the field than if you were throwing everyday students out there. More than the worth of a scholarship.

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But the biggest indicator of how silly your claim is would be that currently only about 1% of college football players sniff the NFL. If that 1% disappears, college football goes on like nothing happened.

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Let’s see it happen then.

Tell all the top prospects who are poor students or have questionable character and don’t really belong in college, have their hands out, or who are transferring in and out to frick off, but no one will ever do that because winning is more important than principle.

You take all the NFL talent off the field and interest would take a hit.

I thought the gumps 'didn't want him anyway'?

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It’s not about someone else making money. It’s about options for the players. The best high school football players are going to play in the NFL one day whether there is college football or not.

College programs do not hold the futures of these players in their hands. In the absence of college football, a minor league would be created and sustained (regardless of how much money it made) to develop players until they are ready for the NFL.

Right now, the colleges are doing a fine job of developing players - but they’re not necessary.

I mean, if you want to bring your lawnmower over and cut my grass regularly and save me some hassle, I will let you. But that is not the same as me needing you to do it as if I’m incapable of it.

The NFL doesn’t have to worry about developing 18-22 year old talent, but they would if they needed to.

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It is about someone else making money. That is what drives the free market. That is why people have attempted what you are claiming and failed.

You just want to say all that bullshite about it's "not needed" to ignore the fact that none of those leagues have ever been able to provide even a fraction of the benefits the schools give the players with just "their scholarship".

It has nothing to do with need and the fact that the college scholarship benefits are damn near impossible to beat.

And you don't give a remote shite about the players. If you did, you wouldn't want to cater to the 1% while screwing over the 99%. You're just on some ignorant tirade where you feel athletes are victims.

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Fans are used to a high standard of athleticism. It’s silly to think that interest wouldn’t drop to some degree without the big dogs.

The Kentucky Derby is a hell of a brand, but no one wants to watch 15 donkeys run in it. They want the thoroughbreds.

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Again, you are only talking about 1% of college players. This huge drop off you imagine does not exist. Players that will not sniff the NFL make plays every Saturday.

Take the only the top 1% of horses out of the Kentucky Derby and nothing changes.

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They certainly will in a few years.

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After they have trained and gotten coached up. Something you keep pretending is worth nothing, which contributes to your ignorant positions.

The kid who spent 3 years at home doing jack shite isn't getting hired at google either, the one who did the training is.

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They don’t want to but they can and would without the college game to do it for them. Someone is going to develop Johnny Fivestar whether the colleges do it or not.

But if you want Johnny Fivestar to contribute to your multibillion dollar industry, the bragging rights of countless fans, and keeping $20,000,000 coaching staffs employed, that’s going to cost more than a scholarship in 2024.

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The NFL already keeps a practice squad. They make about $200k(rookie)-$300k(veteran) a year, assuming they last all year, before taxes. And that's for players they don't offer support for.

And they do that for only 16 players. So a little over 3 million budget as I'm feeling generous.

So now you are talking about replacing that with kids fresh out of high school, who they have to provide a decent amount of support for in terms of coaching, weight training, nutrition and so on.

If they do it, they aren't going to pay them anywhere near as much as the practice squad players do now. They'll have to increase the costs for the staff to handle them, and they'll have to increase the number of players they keep.

Not to mention in college they have an education to fall back on, while if they go straight to the NFL they can be cut/fired at any point and won't have shite but the few paychecks they received. And they aren't going to sit around and wait, as soon as they realize you aren't among what would be the 1% in college football, you're fired and gone.

Kids who don't develop physically for a few years are going to have little to no chance.

So basically, you'd be screwing the players over because you completely ignore the actual value of the scholarship. You completely ignore how much that 20 million dollar coaching staff is a budget to support and teach the players. How much that budget matters in their chances to even be in the top 1%.

Until you start recognizing the value in things, you're going to keep making dumb arguments.

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Gutless. You just proved it. Don't tell me a ban bet is against the rules. YOU don't have to go anywhere but this screen name can. One of our Aub friends, I have to admit, manned up and bit the bullet when Ryan Williams came to Alabama so don't tell me you can't do it.

Coward. If you can't back it up, don't run that mouth. Sidewalk Tiger needs to go. You can be Sidewalk Bammer for awhile and we can all laugh at you.

Because that travel ball team is going to wipe the floor with LSU.

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Cool story, bro.

No need for ban bets. Half of the gump posters will disappear after Karen’s first loss.

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Collected his $100k in NIL money and then transferred back

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I thought everybody was cool with this. Player got to get his!! Scholarships just ain't enough anymore. And this is exactly why NIL and the current transfer portal rules are NOT sustainable. No accountability to the player whatsoever.