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re: The end of the NCAA
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:12 pm to SmokeyGirl
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:12 pm to SmokeyGirl
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:20 pm to captdalton
Kelly Damphousse
Texas State University
For some reason I thought this one would be a woman.
Texas State University
For some reason I thought this one would be a woman.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:12 pm to Clark14
So no rules, no NCAA tournament. Just conference champions. Sign 200 players, in season transfers, free agency and no salary cap.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:23 am to captdalton
Thank you
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:57 am to gypsy2091
lol Tenn going to get bushwacked this time …. Repeat offenders imagine what you got last time and 10x it lol.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:14 am to MOJO_ERASER
Nope. Our program had the balls to stand up to the NCAA bullies. Enough is enough. They play god and use favortism with their retroactive fake rules. Prepare for the NCAA to get put off their pedastal. Y'all can thank us later!
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:09 am to gypsy2091
While I'm not a fan of the NCAA, I like the move they're making with enforcing their one NIL rule (no pay for play). I think it will be good for the sport. If Tennessee's lawsuit is successful and that one rule gets removed I agree that it will kill the NCAA. It will also be very damaging for college football, so I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
I believe the NCAA or whatever replaces it needs to keep pay for play against the rules for NIL. NIL deals need to be reigned back to be about advertising and endorsements, not getting a bunch of money from boosters to play for a school which is where NIL is now.
I believe the NCAA or whatever replaces it needs to keep pay for play against the rules for NIL. NIL deals need to be reigned back to be about advertising and endorsements, not getting a bunch of money from boosters to play for a school which is where NIL is now.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:13 am to DawginSC
You believe it because Nico didn't go to UGA. If your program was dealing with this oh my things would be different.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:15 am to genuineLSUtiger
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The Vols will pay for their crimes.
Crimes?
You must not read the news. According to the USSC, it is the NCAA who are committing crimes.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:16 am to gypsy2091
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You believe it because Nico didn't go to UGA.
Why would he go to that piss poor program? Even after two natties, they STILL coudn't afford him.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:49 am to rich4pres
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They can’t both go down. It’s one or the other.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:20 am to Che Boludo
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This is shortsighted.
Leagues need control and a ruling authority to enforce it.
If not the NCAA, then what? Another governing body would have to emerge and deal with the same issues.
NCAA is the devil we know. They do need to restructure and make bylaws in accordance with the existing environment of college football.
I can't for the life of me understand how it is that anyone thinks any entity charged with doing what the NCAA has been charged with doing would do it any differently. No one likes the regulator, especially when they are in the regulator's crosshairs, but any conceivable regulation and regulatory body would mirror the NCAA in its entirety. You can't desire something be done about the problems in College Athletics and in the same voice express a desire to see the regulatory body eliminated. If something is to be done someone has to do it. The NCAA is currently the only entity with the ability to do so.
As far as Tennessee's issues are concerned their is almost no ambiguity about at least part of the items being investigated...they have ALWAYS been an NCAA violation. They have nothing to do with NIL or the portal or anything other than NCAA rules which have been in place forever.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:22 am to TeddyWestside
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I don’t get it when people say that they want to get rid of the NCAA. Get rid of the NCAA and replace it with what? An association of all of the colleges and universities in the US with sports teams to set up rules that everyone is supposed to follow? That’s what the NCAA is. The NCAA is just all the schools.
I will guarantee you that if you allowed the most vocal critic of the NCAA a chance to describe their vision for a regulatory body they would describe the NCAA in its entirety.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:29 am to DawginSC
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While I'm not a fan of the NCAA, I like the move they're making with enforcing their one NIL rule (no pay for play). I think it will be good for the sport. If Tennessee's lawsuit is successful and that one rule gets removed I agree that it will kill the NCAA. It will also be very damaging for college football, so I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
I believe the NCAA or whatever replaces it needs to keep pay for play against the rules for NIL. NIL deals need to be reigned back to be about advertising and endorsements, not getting a bunch of money from boosters to play for a school which is where NIL is now.
Liking the NCAA would be akin to liking the IRS, and for the same reasons. The reality is that both, or some reasonable facsimile of both, are necessary evils because folks will lie, cheat and do all manner of ill shite if no one is trying to keep them in line. Even when someone is trying to folks still do it and do it every chance they get.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:05 am to AwgustaDawg
College football is now a professional league. The NCAA has no business meddling into professional athletics.
The rules should be set up much like the NFL. There is no cheating in recruiting anymore. What is cheating? You offered the player more money than the next guy?
This is not amateur athletics. This used to be amateur athletics. We can't use the same rules as "used to be".
The rules should be set up much like the NFL. There is no cheating in recruiting anymore. What is cheating? You offered the player more money than the next guy?
This is not amateur athletics. This used to be amateur athletics. We can't use the same rules as "used to be".
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:51 am to Salty Morton
Great comment
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:24 pm to Salty Morton
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College football is now a professional league. The NCAA has no business meddling into professional athletics.
I’ve posted about this before but again, making this jump from amateur to pro is not quite as easy as snapping fingers.
First you are correct that a pro league will need rules like the nfl has to ensure parity, in other words cheating would still absolutly be possible and require enforcement.
Beyond that, the universities, especially public ones, will have some difficulty in justifying their operating a professional sports team which would have no educational function (the current argument is that the sports programs are part of the broader educational goals of the schools). This is because many state legislators may start asking a whole bunch of questions about why tax dollars are going to supporting a pro sports team and not education. These questions could also open the doors to arguments that by not being focused on educational programs, the schools cannot claim academic freedom when states want to get involved internally (often for political reasons).
Right now the system is full of shades of grey, and that’s because it serves everyone’s interest to keep it that way. Openly saying CFB is a pro sport now, threatens that. One solution might be to set up a league independent of the schools and then have the schools license their brand to these teams. But now where does that leave the NFL? Either the CFB pro league will choose to limit players to 4 years of play or the NFL now has a new competitor and they certainly won’t take that lying down. This is just one of a hundred complications, but I point it out to show that just saying CFB is pro now creates more issues than it solves.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:44 pm to gypsy2091
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You believe it because Nico didn't go to UGA. If your program was dealing with this oh my things would be different.
Lol.
Tennessee is suing the NCAA to say that they cannot prevent schools from paying players to play at a specific school.
That lawsuit only happens if Tennessee did exactly that. Pay for play is bad for college football and it's the ONLY thing the NCAA bylaws prevent NIL contracts from doing.
There is only one rule. UT broke it. Now the state is suing the NCAA to say that paying for players should be allowed.
Maybe, just maybe... you shouldn't have paid players to attend their school.
UGA doesn't give huge NIL contracts to high school recruits. Non-starters (including walk-on's) at UGA get 5-figure NIL deals after they get to athens, not big contracts as an incentive to come. THe starting QB at UGA is going to make a million a year in NIL. But a new recruit sitting the bench doesn't. That's why we aren't the target of the NCAA's NIL investigations.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:56 pm to gypsy2091
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The end of the NCAA
quote:FIFY
The end of the UTwest
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:15 pm to DawginSC
Well said, DawginSC. Georgia signs players who want to be at UGA and are willing to work their tails off. They are well compensated once they are signed - not before.
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