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Afterwatching some "film" on De Boer / Grubb offense...

Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
782 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:08 pm
Well, the last couple of days I have watched enough film on the new Alabama passing system to come away with a big smile. Also a bit of trepidation. This is the best offense I have seen since Sark left. I love the way De Boer/Grubbs use the route tree and option routes.

Option routes...the source of the trepidation!

Alabama will use routes to all levels. Intermediate option routes are what make the system click. The primary guy that will be using option routes is the slot...Law is gonna have a huge season, IF...

The WR's run intermediate to deep routes. Digs / post / post corner / over routes / fades / back shoulders / slants / slant and go

The slot does a lot of reading the safety and adjusting his route off how the safety reacts to the X or Y routes.

The TE's are gonna have a big year too (the WR/TE cross over ones)

The catch...The QB has to read the presnap alinements and the post snap reactions of the safety on some plays and the corner on others. The route choices require a quick zone/man read by both the QB and the WR's.

Spring is gonna be huge for Grubb with the QB's. The WR coach did a fantastic job of teaching his kids in Washington clean routes and how to read the DB's.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:14 pm to
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The catch...The QB has to read the presnap alinements and the post snap reactions of the safety on some plays and the corner on others. The route choices require a quick zone/man read by both the QB and the WR's.

I don’t think any of our QBs were ready to run a Grubb offense last year.

We will see serious development over the offseason (I think we have the best QB development team we’ve ever had in Tuscaloosa, period) or we will see attrition and a major depth chart shake up.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:15 pm to
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The catch...The QB has to read the presnap alinements and the post snap reactions of the safety on some plays and the corner on others. The route choices require a quick zone/man read by both the QB and the WR's.


OOOFFFF
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24354 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:16 pm to
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The QB has to read the presnap alinements and the post snap reactions of the safety on some plays and the corner on others.


Yea, about that. We have to get better.
Posted by cecilsberry
Member since Aug 2023
22 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:10 pm to
I think most of our WR corps run good routes and move well in space so this offense will be great for them.

I'm not as worried about the QB room challenging each other enough. Someone will step up and rip it up next year
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1809 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:52 am to
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The catch...The QB has to read the presnap alinements and the post snap reactions of the safety on some plays and the corner on others. The route choices require a quick zone/man read by both the QB and the WR's.
While acknowledging some of JM's shortcomings, I was a big supporter of his efforts last year. He progressed in some ways (e.g., taking care of the ball, etc.). From the beginning he showed enthusiastic leadership, and playmaking ability and often performed well in the clutch, even vs UTx, bringing Alabama back twice late. He threw the ball well, though he was never really a passer, not being able to read the field quickly. He is also very receptive to coaching. He is the kind of person that you pull for.

Having said all of that, it would seem almost impossible for him to win the QB position in this new offense or even be a viable backup. He would have to make the most astounding change in 3-8 months that I've ever seen to pickup skills that he has not developed in HS or 3 years of college. The only positive in this is that he will likely have the best QB coaching he's ever had.

Keep in mind that he was in his 3rd year in this system last year and had been primarily a passing QB in HS, though I don't know how much QB training he received. But with all of that in mind, my understanding is that he was not even trusted to make reads on RPOs. He could make no pre-snap reads or adjustments of any kind like protections. His post-snap reading was the slowest in the country, thus he was rarely trusted to even throw a slant.

This offense absolutely requires that the QB be able to do these things. It just seems impossible to do anything to accommodate JM's inability to do those things.

Certainly, he will be given a chance to learn but he has not been able to this point and he is entering his 4th year of college ball. I do believe that CKD will be able to create a culture that will allow the team to accept whatever decision is made. Reading and hearing about him before he was "the man", CKD is a very thoughtful and considerate man, but the TEAM always comes first. That may be tested early on in his tenure.

Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1480 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:33 am to
What struck me about Washington, was how fast the ball came out as opposed to Alabama this past season. Penix usually had started getting rid of the ball within two seconds. We held onto the ball way too long, which stressed our OL.
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