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Still hard to believe Michigan only had 1 first down the entire 2nd half

Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6439 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:03 pm
Until their last drive with 4 minutes left in the game.
I don't know about yall, but I'm still missed off...lol
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2708 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:11 pm to
We were down by only 3 at the half. They only got one first down the entire half and we still lost. Does that say more about our offense or defense?
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6439 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:31 pm to
I'm gonna have to vote offense...I think if we ever got up 2 scores, Michigan would quit. Unfortunately, those opportunities to go up 2 scores was pissed away
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41469 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 3:05 pm to
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We were down by only 3 at the half. They only got one first down the entire half and we still lost. Does that say more about our offense or defense?



How many three an outs did we have the first half? How many negative plays.

Defense did enough to win this game.
Posted by MrPigskin
Member since Sep 2023
1108 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:17 pm to
That is a mind-boggling stat…you’re right, we should have put them away in the 4th quarter…it never should have gone to OT.
I think a big difference was that michigan had prepped & hoped for a close
game at the end, and had schemed up a handful of offensive plays that
we hadn’t seen before. And they worked.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23174 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:42 pm to
The plays shouldn't have worked. How many times have the players seen a rb come out of the backfield? Thousands of times in their career. Think the moment got to big for them. They looked lost.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19535 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:46 pm to
So their offensive coordinator who cried on TV actually did his job while ours waited till halftime to make adjustments then forgot those adjustments early in the 4th quarter.

I mean compare 4th down plays.

They run a misdirection to get their RB a wide open catch in the flats resulting in a big gain.

While our genius from Notre Dame wanted to run a QB gap blocked run into the teeth of the strength of our opponents defense which has dominated us all game.

Forget the 4th down, look what the idiot Rees ran on 1st and 2nd in goal
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:01 pm to
Defense choked on the final drive and it sucks but overall they played really well.

The offense failed. If we can score another TD after going up 17-13 it’s over.

The defense was really good this year but not elite…still with a much better offense we go unbeaten easily.
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2251 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:13 pm to
I had a feeling when we went to overtime that we would lose. Rees was totally outclassed. I’d take Nussmier over him in a heartbeat.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69747 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:19 pm to
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If we can score another TD after going up 17-13 it’s over.


Yep. And we were driving too.

Then we get a stupid illegal substitution penalty that put us behind the chains and resulted in us having to kick a field goal.

This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by MrPigskin
Member since Sep 2023
1108 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:16 pm to
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The plays shouldn't have worked. How many times have the players seen a rb come out of the backfield?

I agree that maybe they shouldn’t have worked, I’m just saying they were good plays aimed at defeating our coverage. The play for instance where they threw the touchdown slant to the rb, it was actually a cleverly disguised pick play.
They slanted 3 bunch receivers (at least 2 were tight ends) right up to our lbs/db’s and just stopped, creating a wall. The rb ran a slant going the other way right behind them, I have never seen that. It created confusion and worked. But, it should have never come down to a handful of clever plays…we should have put that game away by the middle of the 4th qtr.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 11:13 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19535 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:02 am to
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had a feeling when we went to overtime that we would lose. Rees was totally outclassed.


I knew it as well.

I didn't expect Steele's defense to fold like that but I knew our OC wasn't creative enough to scheme open plays.

We use little to no misdirection.

Heck we have a running QB and Rees refused to run him in the 1st half.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20541 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:08 am to
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but I knew our OC wasn't creative enough to scheme open plays.

We had two wide open options that would’ve resulted in a TD on that final play as has been discussed ad nauseam.

Failure to execute does not equate to a failure to scheme.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7617 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:51 am to
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Heck we have a running QB and Rees refused to run him in the 1st half


If your “running qb” actually kept the ball on the RPO instead of handing off on 1st and goal at the nine yrd line the game is tied.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19535 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:15 am to
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We had two wide open options that would’ve resulted in a TD on that final play


No we did not. The ball was badly snapped and that altered the play.

Secondly, that play was a bad play per our head coach Nick Saban. We should have rolled our QB to the wide side and had different options running flats and drags.

I don't even know how you expect any QB to make a read when he is constantly picking the ball up from the floor or trying to guess where it's going to get snapped.

Milroe is already limited as is... he doesn't need the difficulty raised FFS
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20133 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:17 am to
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Rees was totally outclassed.


Yes he was. He ran our scheme for the game into the Tampa 2 of the defensive teeth. It was suicidal and we somehow still almost won despite it. I think Washington would have eaten us alive.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8836 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:53 pm to
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Washington would have eaten us alive.


Penix will eat that soft zone up. Washington is going to beat Michigan, and clowns on here will say it's because UW's o-line is better than BAMA's.

BY would've thrown for 5000 yards this season with the same o- line with Niblack, Bond, Law, & Burton.
Tua would've, too.
So would Mac.
So would Burrow, Penix, or even Bo Nix. But sure, it's not our QB that's the problem.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 9:03 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20541 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:49 pm to
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No we did not.

Yes we did. Watch the video. RB in the flat was uncovered or he could follow the pulling OG. It was a walk in and schematically was a win for Bama which is all you can ask of your coordinator, right?

quote:

The ball was badly snapped and that altered the play

Absolutely. But what does that have to do with Rees?
quote:

We should have rolled our QB to the wide side and had different options running flats and drags

Sounds good. But how would that be any different with a bad snap on the play if Milroe was gonna be impacted to the degree you're suggesting?
quote:

I don't even know how you expect any QB to make a read when he is constantly picking the ball up from the floor or trying to guess where it's going to get snapped.

Milroe is already limited as is... he doesn't need the difficulty raised FFS


I agree with all of that. Cant expect someone who struggles with reads to have to pick the ball off his cleats and then process.

But again... thats not on the OC, unless by OC you mean our hapless center.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20541 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:56 pm to
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Rees was totally outclassed.


Yes he was. He ran our scheme for the game into the Tampa 2 of the defensive teeth. It was suicidal and we somehow still almost won despite it. I think Washington would have eaten us alive.



Damnit... why are people making me defend Rees?

The guy is no Sark or Kiffin, but we had guys open all day. They were giving us the short/intermediate stuff. We just didn't take it.

But when:
-the OL is getting whipped
-the center is snapping the ball like a 3rd grader who just finished a 2L of Mountain Dew (>50% bad snaps)
-the QB is incapable of making basic reads, shifting the protection or hitting simple screen passes to punish a pass rush

What exactly are you supposed to do? Milroe missed a screen pass by 3-5 yards at one point. All of our past sins came home to haunt us and we lost to a really good team. It happens, especially when you're a team with as many flaws as we had this year.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 9:58 pm
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