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Is the portal overrated?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:00 am
Players have always been able to transfer if they were willing to sit out a year. For the most part I haven't seen players go in year one and make a huge difference. And most of the one who did, didn't look as good as they looked with their former school. Example: Jordan Addison.
I'd say RB and DL are probably the two positions that would be easiest to transfer and then year one make a huge impact as those are the positions that are easiest to learn. I see more of an impact with NIL and recruiting than the portal.
I'd say RB and DL are probably the two positions that would be easiest to transfer and then year one make a huge impact as those are the positions that are easiest to learn. I see more of an impact with NIL and recruiting than the portal.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 10:05 am
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:02 am to koreandawg
Probably.
Based on results, I think it's an issue where everyone is hoping for the next Joe Burrow but you're way more like to get the next Blake Barnett.
Based on results, I think it's an issue where everyone is hoping for the next Joe Burrow but you're way more like to get the next Blake Barnett.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:03 am to skrayper
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Based on results, I think it's an issue where everyone is hoping for the next Joe Burrow but you're way more like to get the next Blake Barnett.
Even Joe needed a year to be what he was. He was fine his first year and I guess compared to what had been playing the position, really good. But no one could see his senior year coming, and that includes LSU fans. But most fans are expecting huge improvement by their team based on these players and I'm seeing as much or more disappointment as satisfaction.
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:05 am to koreandawg
Yes
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:07 am to koreandawg
Nix, Penix, Daniels - all transfers
Having 2-3 years out of a transfer QB is obviously preferable.
Having 2-3 years out of a transfer QB is obviously preferable.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:08 am to koreandawg
Washington and Texas aren't in the CFP without the portal (Penix & Ewers).
Bama likely is the heavy favorite if they executed properly in the portal (replacing Milroe).
Studs weren't sitting out a year to transfer, the portal is a game changer.. especially in the case of rebuilds.
Bama likely is the heavy favorite if they executed properly in the portal (replacing Milroe).
Studs weren't sitting out a year to transfer, the portal is a game changer.. especially in the case of rebuilds.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:10 am to koreandawg
It gives teams like OM and Miz an opportunity to fill gaps immediately instead of waiting three years.
It gives players a chance to play, find a better fit, or step up their league. Look at the Heisman finalists and half the playoff QBs.
Mostly it’s about money though.
It gives players a chance to play, find a better fit, or step up their league. Look at the Heisman finalists and half the playoff QBs.
Mostly it’s about money though.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:11 am to koreandawg
There's a post right now on the front page about an SEC team hitting the portal hard.
Really not trying to flame, but that team had the greatest recruiting class of all time two years ago, then finished 7–6 twice and fired their coach.
And now they're having to "hit the portal hard?"
What the hell are we (collectively) doing to college football that any of this makes sense?
I feel like we're on the verge of doing some real harm to this sport.
Sure there is more parity, but IMO the product on the field has gotten worse, not better. It's like everyone is becoming equally bad, which just makes you wonder if a lot of these guys are in that portal for a reason.
Really not trying to flame, but that team had the greatest recruiting class of all time two years ago, then finished 7–6 twice and fired their coach.
And now they're having to "hit the portal hard?"
What the hell are we (collectively) doing to college football that any of this makes sense?
I feel like we're on the verge of doing some real harm to this sport.
Sure there is more parity, but IMO the product on the field has gotten worse, not better. It's like everyone is becoming equally bad, which just makes you wonder if a lot of these guys are in that portal for a reason.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:14 am to MetryMauler
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Nix, Penix, Daniels - all transfers
Having 2-3 years out of a transfer QB is obviously preferable.
That's fair, but one of the things said about the portal was that it was gonna even the playing field. You could point to Washington, though historically they have been a CFB power.
I haven't seen this incredible shift in balance so far. LSU is a have school, so that's actually making things worse if you are a have not. Especially when they are getting a Daniels from a have not.
Same with Georgia taking Mizzou's second best and MSU's best WR. The Georgias, Alabamas, LSUs aren't taking the guys Colorado did with Deion. They are essentially letting the haven nots be their farm system, showing them a player is good they may have not have evaluated correctly in high school. That doesnt seem to be evening the playing field but making it worse. Georgia just took Vandy's best WR. Alabama took GT's best RB last year. Looks like rich getting richer to me.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:15 am to koreandawg
We’ve gotten some quality guys from the portal. Leary may not have panned out but guys like Ray Davis, Alex Raynor, Marques Cox, and Keeshawn Silver all had good, immediate reps in areas of need.
But I feel like we have some pretty good talent evaluators in general, so that helps IMO. Looking forward to some of the UGA guys we’ve picked up in this off-season.
But I feel like we have some pretty good talent evaluators in general, so that helps IMO. Looking forward to some of the UGA guys we’ve picked up in this off-season.
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:15 am to skrayper
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but you're way more like to get the next Blake Barnett.
or Payton Thorne
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:16 am to paperwasp
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I feel like we're on the verge of doing some real harm to this sport.
on the verge? That ship sailed a while ago
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:19 am to koreandawg
It certainly helps mediocre teams get better faster but if a good team is trying to become ELITE, the portal is not your answer.
The QB position will always be an outlier here because of the impact an elite QB can have on a team relative to other positions.
The QB position will always be an outlier here because of the impact an elite QB can have on a team relative to other positions.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:20 am to BluegrassBelle
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Looking forward to some of the UGA guys we’ve picked up in this off-season.
I wish Brock well, but the scuttle butt coming into the season was that Gunner was making the difference between the two razor thin. No one is gonna keep four and five stars stacked at that position once the battle has been settled without two and three year gaps in seniority.
JDJ is a great player and should be a starter right off. And hard as it may be to believe, getting injured probably cost him his job, or at least his hold on it, going into the next year. The two guys below him are far more athletic and if they learn the position, can play it better. He would have absolutely been a rotational player and seen the field a lot. Trez Marshall was the same way and started for Bama this year, so it could be great for you.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:24 am to Leto II
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on the verge? That ship sailed a while ago
True.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:25 am to koreandawg
Agree. You could say it is leveling out the top 30 or so while creating a larger gap between those teams and everyone else.
Also, GA taking Lovett was a gift in hindsight as he was replaced almost immediately by a team leader in Theo Wease who apparently made the whole room better.
Also, GA taking Lovett was a gift in hindsight as he was replaced almost immediately by a team leader in Theo Wease who apparently made the whole room better.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:26 am to koreandawg
Yes, LSU found out the hard way this year; sometimes talent is not worth getting a player who is a bad fit and is locker room cancer. Buyer, be aware; I think LSU ended up with buyer's remorse on a few players.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:35 am to paperwasp
quote:The "real harm" has already been done.
There's a post right now on the front page about an SEC team hitting the portal hard.
Really not trying to flame, but that team had the greatest recruiting class of all time two years ago, then finished 7–6 twice and fired their coach.
And now they're having to "hit the portal hard?"
What the hell are we (collectively) doing to college football that any of this makes sense?
I feel like we're on the verge of doing some real harm to this sport.
When Nick Saban started paying recruits a collective $10+ million per year...
then was followed by HIS protegee Fat Boy Kirby joined in and paid recruits and players 30+ million per year
then bama caught up with them
then got several other teams in the race
legitimizing pay for play and the farce NIL heat
It all traces back to the scumbag mideget and Fat Boy
THEY KILLED COLLEGE FOOTBALL! Roll TAHD! WOOF WOOF WOOF!
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:36 am to skrayper
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I think it's an issue where everyone is hoping for the next Joe Burrow but you're way more like to get the next Blake Barnett.
It seems like most QB transfer don’t hit their stride until the 2nd year of the transfer. Caleb Williams won a heisman is in his first year but he also did it with same coach he had before.
Burrow
Ewers
Nix
Penix
Daniels
All had great 2nd years.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:41 am to koreandawg
If you get a player that can be there multiple years, no. Look at Daniels for the latest example.
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