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All this talk about how the 12-team playoff will fix everything...
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:54 am
If we had a 12-team playoff this year, it would be LSU, Ole Miss, and Missouri fans arguing back and forth about resume and head-to-head (I guess Missouri and Ole Miss already are, actually). The more things change, the more they will stay the same.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:55 am to TheTideMustRoll
Have they established that every conference champion will be given an automatic spot?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:56 am to TheTideMustRoll
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If we had a 12-team playoff this year, it would be LSU, Ole Miss, and Missouri fans arguing back and forth about resume and head-to-head (I guess Missouri and Ole Miss already are, actually). The more things change, the more they will stay the same.
Actually no. Lousiville is the fly in the ointment being outside the top 11 taking a spot. That wouldn't happen next year.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:56 am to TheTideMustRoll
Yes, this squabble between Mizzou and Ole Miss is just a precursor of what's to come.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:56 am to TheTideMustRoll
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All this talk about how the 12-team playoff will fix everything...
only idiots think that. It doesn't fix anything, it just devalues the regular season and will potentially lead to teams rematching with enormous stakes a game that's alreayd happened. Even more so than it happens now.
The biggest thing to me is, if you're ranked 12th after 13 weeks of action you dont desreve to be national champin. Period, end of story. 4 is perfect for the same reason, if you're 5th...you fricked up somewhere.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:57 am to TheTideMustRoll
The thing is most teams won't give a flying rats arse about the also-rans arguing about who is 13th and who is 12th.
All the CFP did was push it down from 2/3 to 4/5 at least pushing it down to 12/13 if you can't qualify then well frick you eat shite and bay at the moon scrub.
All the CFP did was push it down from 2/3 to 4/5 at least pushing it down to 12/13 if you can't qualify then well frick you eat shite and bay at the moon scrub.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:57 am to TheTideMustRoll
Any sport with a postseason using at large bids has this debate
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:58 am to WG_Dawg
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it just devalues the regular season
Not it doesn't. It opens a ton of important games for tons of teams in November that right now mean nothing.
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4 is perfect for the same reason, if you're 5th...you fricked up somewhere.
For like the same 8 teams every year.
You are correct though. Finishing 12th means you probably have 3 losses and can't complain. But people still will.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:58 am to Old Sarge
It's gonna be the same deal, do you reward wins and losses or do you reward schedule strength
LSU played Fla St, if not they would likely have two losses
Ole miss played ga tech and tulane
Mizzou played Kansas St
It's no incentive for LSU to schedule Fla St when it's much easier to schedule someone easier
LSU played Fla St, if not they would likely have two losses
Ole miss played ga tech and tulane
Mizzou played Kansas St
It's no incentive for LSU to schedule Fla St when it's much easier to schedule someone easier
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:00 am to TheTideMustRoll
The difference is we'll be arguing about teams that probably don't matter. Does anyone think Mizzou, Ole Miss, or Lsu could challenge for a title? In a lot of years, the teams in the 5-6 or 5-8 range could challenge. This year is the perfect example. 12 is probably too many, but its the system we have for now.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:02 am to TheTideMustRoll
All that is going to happen is the same people who argue about who is #4 and #5 will argue about who is #12 and #13. It changes nothing as far as that goes.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:03 am to Old Sarge
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Have they established that every conference champion will be given an automatic spot?
"The new 12-team College Football Playoff field will include the six highest-ranked conference champions, which will receive automatic bids. The top four teams will receive a first-round bye to the quarterfinals.
The six highest-ranked teams remaining will round out the 12-team format."
From the NCAA website.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:03 am to WG_Dawg
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The biggest thing to me is, if you're ranked 12th after 13 weeks of action you dont desreve to be national champin
What if you're undefeated without playing a ranked team going into week 12?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:04 am to TheTideMustRoll
No playoff setting will fix things
LSU doesn't have enough wins to argue this season.
Mizzou and Ole Miss definitely would have an argument, and based on rankings could both possibly make a 12 team playoff this season, unless the committee makes some of the tier 2 teams more prevalent in a 12 team playoff. Like Liberty and Tulane.
LSU doesn't have enough wins to argue this season.
Mizzou and Ole Miss definitely would have an argument, and based on rankings could both possibly make a 12 team playoff this season, unless the committee makes some of the tier 2 teams more prevalent in a 12 team playoff. Like Liberty and Tulane.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:04 am to TheTideMustRoll
Doesn't matter what OM fans think. The committee is wise and has Mizzou correctly ranked significantly ahead of them.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:05 am to TheTideMustRoll
SEC takes 7-8 of the 12 spots, Then you'll see PAC, B10, ACC cryout it's rigged. 

Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:06 am to ronricks
This year is kind of an anomaly - a 12 team playoff would have been nice to see, it allows Ohio St and Michigan to both compare their teams to others outside conference, same with the sec teams.
Some years you might only have 4 teams with a realistic shot or 6 teams might have a shot, it will be rare that 12 teams will have a legitimate shot
As good as the LSU offense is, I would not want to see this team with the defense it put out this year try and navigate a playoff
Some years you might only have 4 teams with a realistic shot or 6 teams might have a shot, it will be rare that 12 teams will have a legitimate shot
As good as the LSU offense is, I would not want to see this team with the defense it put out this year try and navigate a playoff
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:07 am to TheTideMustRoll
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If we had a 12-team playoff this year, it would be LSU, Ole Miss, and Missouri fans arguing back and forth about resume and head-to-head (I guess Missouri and Ole Miss already are, actually). The more things change, the more they will stay the same.
Correct, that’s the fun part. What’s not fun is having 1 loss early in the season but being left out or being undefeated going into your conference championship and losing and getting left out.
The championship games will still matter for seeding which is great and the winner gets an auto bid so a team like Iowa will fight even harder to win.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:07 am to WG_Dawg
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All this talk about how the 12-team playoff will fix everything...
only idiots think that. It doesn't fix anything, it just devalues the regular season and will potentially lead to teams rematching with enormous stakes a game that's alreayd happened. Even more so than it happens now.
You literally could have Alabama and Auburn play each other three games in a row.
This is the one thing that very well could happen: over a ten year span, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State, and Michigan could get in ten years in a row.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:09 am to TheTideMustRoll
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