Started By
Message
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:08 am to VOLhalla
Don’t act like I’m the one who needs to pull out the rulebook. You said Young wasn’t defenseless there. Only after I educated you on that concept were you forced to concede that point.
I’m happy to answer how that hit meets the rest of the requirements for targeting; after you answer my question which you deflected on. I’ll post it again:
I’m happy to answer how that hit meets the rest of the requirements for targeting; after you answer my question which you deflected on. I’ll post it again:
quote:
Even after Vols were gifted that game, Bama is on an unprecedented 16-1 win streak. How much worse do you think it will get for UTk? 20 wins with one asterisk loss? 30? 50?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:10 am to GAFF
Be thankful you didn’t have the ACC screw crew like UGA did
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:13 am to GAFF
Former LSU coach L.Miles speaking at a booster club in the summer of his second year said that when he was head coach in the Big 12 he'd normally speak to the League office about officiating twice a year. Once in the summer to get briefed on any new rules; at the end of the season to get the League's review of the past season. In the SEC he found himself calling the League office to complain about calls every week, and not over minor stuff. "Major blown calls". He said he had never seen such League-wide bad officiating. If anything, it's gotten worse.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:14 am to thatthang
quote:
Don’t act like I’m the one who needs to pull out the rulebook. You said Young wasn’t defenseless there.
I just said young was defenseless in the link you posted
How stupid are you? You realize that hitting a defenseless player isn’t automatically a penalty, right?
When I referenced young not being defenseless it was regarding different plays Bama posters have complained about. I had no idea what play you were thinking of - you hadn’t even linked to it yet hell, I even asked you to link to what you were thinking of
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:17 am to VOLhalla
Stop deflecting. Answer my question and I’ll further educate you on targeting (as I had to do earlier when I taught you QB’s who just threw a pass are defenseless).
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:21 am to thatthang
You claimed UT got away with a targeting penalty against Young and linked to a legal hit and now can’t explain why you think it’s a penalty
And you think I’m deflecting
Did you finally Google the rule?
And you think I’m deflecting
Did you finally Google the rule?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:21 am to GAFF
Outside of money, is there a reason conferences couldn't make officiating a full time job? These TV deals are in the billions of dollars now...you would think they could deploy a very small amount of that to employing officials. It's crazy to think a sport that commands so much revenue leaves game-changing decisions in the hands of part time workers.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:27 am to Parrish_Dawg
The player who grabbed Aubies face mask was the one who was pushed in the back. He already had an arm out so perhaps the push in the back caused the face mask. Ref couldn’t have seen this in real time obviously. The penalties should have offset. It didn’t decide the game, either way.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am to VOLhalla
Still deflecting from my original question. Just answer my question man, and I will provide a detailed explanation on why that was clearly targeting. I already gave you a courtesy education on the concept of a defenseless player, but the rest won’t be free.
I’ll ask again, how much worse, in your best guess, will this 16-1* streak get? 20 Bama wins with 1* loss? 30? 50?
I’ll ask again, how much worse, in your best guess, will this 16-1* streak get? 20 Bama wins with 1* loss? 30? 50?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:42 am to thatthang
quote:
I’ll ask again, how much worse, in your best guess, will this 16-1* streak get? 20 Bama wins with 1* loss? 30? 50?
UT wins next year. Series probably splits till Nicky retires, then it’s back to irrelevance for a couple decades for Bama
quote:
will provide a detailed explanation on why that was clearly targeting.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:55 am to OKtiger
quote:
egregious no call on that face mask.
Clearly this should have been called and it is inexcusable they missed it, but I honestly think that no-call helped Auburn more than it hurt them. It most definitely woke the crowd up at a time when it looked like Bama was about to roll to a dominating win, and that renewed energy seemed to flow into the team. Throw in the holding call that brought back a TD and forced a punt on our next series with the ball, and it was game on from that point.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:55 am to VOLhalla
Response coming right up, almost free
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:04 am to GAFF
quote:
Jason Autrey and his crew needs to be removed from officiating SEC games.
Alabama fans talking about bad officiating..
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:20 am to GAFF
quote:You would make a great LSU fan.
GAFF
Congrats.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:23 am to VOLhalla
quote:
UT wins next year. Series probably splits till Nicky retires
I knew you weren't a serious person, but
Go to 17 second mark on that video. UT player clearly leads with the crown of his helmet and hits Young right in the facemask a step or two after he releases. You can clearly see his head snap back from the initial contact on the facemask.
Only one indicator of targeting is needed here, but two are met:
(3) Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
(4) Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Here's how this discussion between you and me would go if I was interested in further interacting with your unhinged arse. You will likely dispute that UTK player initiated with the crown. I would then educate you that the crown is the "portion of the helmet above the level of the top of the facemask," and clearly that's where contact was made here after he cleary lowers his head right before initiating contact. I would point out again that, nevertheless, the crown issue is a side argument, that all we need is #3 to call this targeting and only a lunatic would argue we don't have that here. We could argue for hours over where the force of the hit was absorbed, but because you are unhinged and incapable of acknowledging reality due to your debilitating confirmation bias, you will never admit the indisputable truth that the UTk player made 'forcible contact at the head or neck area' of Bryce. At this point I would point out that if you interviewed a thousand people who are rules experts or just watch college football and are not insane like you, it is my strong opinion that a vast majority agrees #3 is indisputable and #4 was probably also met. You would likely argue that the percentages were lower, but you would agree that some people would likely agree that "forcible contact at the head or neck area." At that point I would point out this part from the intro paragraph targeting: "When in question, it is a foul." Discussion over. You lost. You are unhinged and incapable of rationally discussing this topic, which was clear to me from the beginning.
ETA the video again, here:
LINK
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:31 am to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:
For the LSU fans, Autrey’s crew also officiated the flag fest LSU/Missouri game earlier this season.
THIS. frick those guys. While watching the game, you just had this helpless feeling no one was in control and it was a roll of the dice of what would happen next when a flag was thrown/not thrown. I would bet Missouri fans felt the same way.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:39 am to thatthang
quote:
Go to 17 second mark on that video. UT player clearly leads with the crown of his helmet and hits Young right in the facemask a step or two after he releases
The crown of the helmet is the top of the helmet, not the face mask and portion of the helmet right above the face mask, which is the part of the defender’s helmet that makes contact. You honestly don’t know what the crown of the helmet is???
Young is defenseless in that clip so what you posted might be targeting. What you’re not considering is that the defender begins to raise his left arm before making contact and then the actual hit is obscured by other players. If the defender initialized contact with his helmet to young’s helmet that’s targeting. If he initializes contact with his left arm/hand, it’s not targeting. And the clip you provided doesn’t show definitively which happened first. What you posted could be targeting, we simply can’t draw that conclusion from what you linked.
I’m not shocked that someone who does not know what the crown of the helmet is doesn’t understand the targeting rule
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:41 am to GAFF
How precious. bama fan complaining about the officials.
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News