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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:43 am to kennerhawk
Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:43 am to kennerhawk
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They moved up to FBS and must wait 2 years to participate in bowl games. They are a very good team and will watch others play.
Anybody know the reasoning for this rule? Seems odd.
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:48 am to DawgsLife
They should just pull a Bama and go play at Hawaii after the season is over
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:53 am to Che Boludo
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They say it's to protect the schools and make them more cautious to move up.
That’s shite. The school isn’t forced to accept a bowl invite if they’re outmatched.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:12 am to pankReb
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That’s shite. The school isn’t forced to accept a bowl invite if they’re outmatched.
That's not the issue. The schools have all sorts of pre- and post-transition requirements to make from scholarships, used to have attendance levels, etc. In order to fully transition.
It's a tough transition. The NCAA espouses that they don't want the turbulence of a school washing out and having/wanting to move back, but that's BS.
My wager is that P5 schools don't want to dilute further any NCAA monies or investments put back into FBS. While small programs/non-P5 want that even more, especially if a new more competitive school (JMU) moves up.
It's gatekeeping by and large, as I've said.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:14 am to tideohio
What the NCAA is doing to JMU is the biggest case of Bull$hit ever. The rule makes no sense, they can't articulate a solid reason for it, But hey, we're going to enforce it even if the world knows it's BS!
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:19 am to dhuck20
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Not even sure what is the purpose of the rule. What is the point of it
Allegedly it's to prevent FBS bottom feeders from strategically moving up and down depending on how good they expect their team to be that year. Practically speaking though the financial and scheduling implications would prevent that from ever actually happening these days. It's a stupid rule that needs to be changed. Especially when fricking Liberty, a school the NCAA should have absolutely nothing to do with, gets a waiver.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:22 am to Summer of Jimbo
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One of these lower bowls should invite them anyway instead of some 5-7 team and just call it an exhibition game.
Both them and Jax State are going bowling as long as there are not enough 6-6 teams which there is not going to be. They wanted the waiver to play in a big bowl and their conference championship game. So, instead of possibly playing in the Cotton they are going to get the Mobile or something like that.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:32 am to msudawg1200
They should at least have an exception if they win out and end up the CFP poll G5 highest ranked.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:22 am to Summer of Jimbo
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One of these lower bowls should invite them anyway instead of some 5-7 team and just call it an exhibition game
If they aren't enough teams with 6 wins, those transitioning to FBS become eligible if they're in year 2 of the process. Jacksonville State is in the same situation.
This rule has been around for a very long time and programs know about it when they start the process. It didn't sneak up on them. Bitching about it now is pretty low class.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:24 am to JustGetItRight
I'd argue that the disdain is about the rule. We know they knew about the rules.
It's about the rules. They need to be changed.
Tez Bryant is a good example of how influence can go a long way.
Just change the rules because like you said, they're old.
It's about the rules. They need to be changed.
Tez Bryant is a good example of how influence can go a long way.
Just change the rules because like you said, they're old.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:34 am to Che Boludo
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They should at least have an exception if they win out and end up the CFP poll G5 highest ranked.
That's what they asked for and got denied
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:19 am to tideohio
Tarleton fricking State could have made a bowl game this season? 
What the hell??
What the hell??
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:41 am to tideohio
Just doesn't make money sense, especially for James Madison. JM will fill seats and hotel rooms. It's about the size of Miss State so I'd think they can travel quite a decent number, especially to cap off a good season. Tarleton and Jacksonville are not that big (about half the size) but again, good seasons travel well.
Bowls are just going down the shitter attendance wise and it seems stupid to deny fan bases that are going to show up and put money into the event.
Bowls are just going down the shitter attendance wise and it seems stupid to deny fan bases that are going to show up and put money into the event.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:59 am to dhuck20
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Ineligible to play in a bowl game.
or Sun Belt championship despite being far and away the best team in the conference.
They beat 1 loss Troy by 2 points early in the season. It would be a good rematch, but Troy are defending Sunbelt champions and have been on a roll.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:10 pm to Che Boludo
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They say it's to protect the schools and make them more cautious to move up.
I do agree with the OP, then. Let the schools make the decision. Thanks for your response.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:27 pm to gamecockhub
quote:I think it's somewhat to preserve the divisions, and to an extent the integrity of the sport.
What the NCAA is doing to JMU is the biggest case of Bull$hit ever. The rule makes no sense, they can't articulate a solid reason for it, But hey, we're going to enforce it even if the world knows it's BS!
A team can potentially make more money at the FBS level, but get butchered as a result. Take South Dakota State or similar- they are a solid program, dominated the FCS a few years. Beat a bowl-worthy Kansas State team once.
They could jump to the MWC, and would probably do okay at that level, maybe make a minor bowl (which might be going way now). Or they could jump to an independent tier, schedule a ton of P5 teams, make a lot of money and get their teeth kicked in as a result (look at what's happening to the teams that jumped into the Big 12 this year; UCF and Cincinnati were considered "good", one made the playoffs and another made some NY6 bowls. But with a true P5 schedule they're getting mauled).
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:34 pm to Robot Santa
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Especially when fricking Liberty, a school the NCAA should have absolutely nothing to do with, gets a waiver.
Deal with it.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:41 pm to dhuck20
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or Sun Belt championship despite being far and away the best team in the conference.
Not even sure what is the purpose of the rule. What is the point of it
I think it's because teams in transition are allowed to schedule more than two FCS teams, but James Madison didn't do that their first or second transition year. I could also be wrong about that, but the scheduling discrepancy is the only thing that would make sense to me.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:50 pm to Robot Santa
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Especially when fricking Liberty, a school the NCAA should have absolutely nothing to do with, gets a waiver.
What, you don't lika duh Jesus?
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