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re: Where there is smoke there is fire.

Posted on 11/12/23 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8234 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 4:02 pm to
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It's not mid season. And he's had 4 seasons to prove he's above mediocre.


It is still the regular season. I say mid-season because we are still in the middle of the season. You can squabble over semantics, but whatever you call it it, coaches are still coaching. No one is going to bolt from their current position while the season is still underway. They won’t even have an official interview most likely.

If Arkansas fires him now, and they haven’t already lined something up through backchannels, this is a recipe for disaster. You will lose your recruiting class. You will have a frustrating coaching search. Arkansas football will take a step backwards. And that seems to be exactly what is happening.

Downvote and squabble, but firing him now with zero plan is just idiotic. Maybe they already have their guy lined up. But more likely not.

You had winning seasons the last two years. You could do a lot worse. I am afraid you are about to find that out the Danny Ford, John L. Smith, or Chad Morris way.

I may be wrong. But past performance is the best indicator of future performance. And Arkansas coaching searches have been ugly since Houston Nutt resigned. Since 2011, 12 seasons, Arkansas has had 4 different coaches. It is hard to build a program with a new coach every three years on average. In those past 12 years Arkansas has had a winning record 5 times. Bielema had three of them in five seasons. Pittman has had two of them in four seasons. And in those past 12 season, Arkansas has had one 9 win season. The coach that did it was Sam Pittman.

I actually like Arkansas. That is why I hate to see them do something stupid. But y’all will do what you do.

I just think y’all need to be realistic. Bobby Petrino was your most successful coach since joining the SEC. But he still only had winning seasons 3 out of 4 years. And his behavior left your program in shambles that led to the last 12 years. Before that, Houston Nutt was very successful. In 10 seasons he won two SEC west titles. And he was .500 or below 3 seasons. In 2004 he went 5-6. In 2005 he went 4-7. Y’all would have fired him today. The next year he won the SEC west.

If Arkansas starts firing coaches mid season after one losing season, they are doomed to keep repeating the last 12 years. Or worse.
Posted by Hogo Stiglitz
Rogers
Member since Jun 2021
162 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 4:09 pm to
Pittman isn't being "fired"
He is "retiring" the split will be mutual. Sam gets what he wants the university gets what they want could be officially official within the hour might not get out until the Missouri game.
Posted by PineyWoodsHog
Texas
Member since Sep 2021
1561 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 4:54 pm to
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You can squabble over semantics


Now it comes out. You sir are a raging anti-semantite.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7517 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:46 pm to
Petrino improved every year though, didn’t regress like Pittman has done. And Nutt was before the transfer portal when it was easier to flip a roster like so many other coaches are doing immediately
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21359 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:10 pm to
Arkansas football is already living in the Danny Ford, John L. Smith and Chad Morris years in real time. A few winning seasons don't remove the fact that Arkansas football still sucks.

Past performances aren't always the best indicator of future performances as the future isn't set.

Arkansas has and have continued to make one bad coaching hire after another.

The coaches after Petrino were given plenty of time to succeed or fail. John L. doesn't count as he was an interim coach.

Nutt was the most successful coach in the SEC for Arkansas just because he stayed the longest. But Petrino had back to back 10 win seasons since 88-89 in just four years.

Nutt didn't resign but was fired. He averaged seven wins a year at Arkansas.

Nutt won or shared SEC West titles in 1998, 2002 and 2006.

Nutt had two losing seasons in 2004 and 2005. He became the first head football coach to survive back to back losing seasons since the early 50s.

He was given a two year pass by his boss which he didn't earn nor deserve.

Yes he won the SEC West but many hog fans were burned out with Nutt and just wanted him to go away.

Oh it also didn't help that he failed to win an SEC title with arguably the greatest RBs in SEC history going 18-16.




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