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Lost in all of this discussion about the Dallas Turner hit on Jayden Daniels...
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:30 pm
Let's argue for the sake of it that it was indeed targeting. Even if it would have been called correctly on the field, what exactly would have changed? Turner would have been ejected for the remainder of the game to be certain, but Jayden Daniels would have remained on the sidelines with Nussmeier starting in his place. It's not like LSU was robbed of 15 free yards off a penalty because roughing the passer was indeed called on Turner.
What exactly are we arguing here? You can say the refs missed a call but its impact on the game would have been negligible if they had called it correctly. Daniels would have remained injured targeting or no targeting. I just don't see how it would have mattered.
What exactly are we arguing here? You can say the refs missed a call but its impact on the game would have been negligible if they had called it correctly. Daniels would have remained injured targeting or no targeting. I just don't see how it would have mattered.
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:33 pm to RollTide1987
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Even if it would have been called correctly on the field, what exactly would have changed?
It would help prove that the officials aren’t corrupt.
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:43 pm to RollTide1987
It wouldn't have changed a fricking thing which is why it's so fricking embarrassing to hear some of our retards act like it's why we lost the game.
Bama whopped our front 7 and our center had the yips with low snaps and multiple false starts. The interception to set up the short field ended it. Simple as that.
Bama whopped our front 7 and our center had the yips with low snaps and multiple false starts. The interception to set up the short field ended it. Simple as that.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:52 pm to RollTide1987
Just for arguments sake, a targeting call would be a harsher punishment for the guilty player and his team. It would give him and his coaches time to reflect on what he did wrong. He might not lead with his helmet and launch at this next QB they play or a QB they play in the future. It is not just about how a penalty effects the present game. It is about effecting the guilty players type of play in the future, and possibly saving the health of a future opponent. I believe that is the intent of the rule.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:55 pm to RollTide1987
What would be LSU's excuse if the hit never happened?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:10 pm to RollTide1987
Soooooo..... If you feel it won't change the outcome of the game, there's no need to call penalties?
Makes total sense.
Makes total sense.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:23 pm to RollTide1987
do you think Alabama is better with or without Turner?
not saying we win, but it couldn’t have hurt our chances.
he did pressure Nuss almost every pass.
not saying we win, but it couldn’t have hurt our chances.
he did pressure Nuss almost every pass.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
My only argument is consistent enforcement of the rules. It seems that the parameters of what is targeting changes week to week. We were even the benefactor of a targeting call vs MSU that I thought was total BS that got Shawn Preston ejected. I don’t have anythint against Turner. I like his style of play in terms of his physicality. I just want to see the rule enforced evenly whether it makes a difference in the outcome or not.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:28 pm to RollTide1987
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Let's argue for the sake of it that it was indeed targeting. Even if it would have been called correctly on the field, what exactly would have changed? Turner would have been ejected for the remainder of the game to be certain, but Jayden Daniels would have remained on the sidelines with Nussmeier starting in his place. It's not like LSU was robbed of 15 free yards off a penalty because roughing the passer was indeed called on Turner.
What exactly are we arguing here? You can say the refs missed a call but its impact on the game would have been negligible if they had called it correctly. Daniels would have remained injured targeting or no targeting. I just don't see how it would have mattered.
I don't think anyone is arguing that the game was won or lost on the targetting no-call.
It was an illegal hit which injured a player. People are mad about that and want the offending player punished as per the regulation.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:56 pm to RollTide1987
Spot on, I have been saying the same. Call or no call, JD not playing eliminated any possibility of a come back
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:57 pm to RollTide1987
Can someone open up a Crying One Way Or The Other About The Jayden Daniels Hit forum so we don't have to see this shite every 3rd post?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 2:53 pm to RollTide1987
You always have to beat the REFs and Bama. That is why Kelly went for two last year. He had to.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:02 pm to RollTide1987
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Let's argue for the sake of it that it was indeed targeting.
It was targeting
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Even if it would have been called correctly on the field
So you agree, it should have been called targeting.
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what exactly would have changed?
Correct call being made and player ejected.
Does that mean the outcome, changes? No. I’m not saying that some LSU fans claimed it changed the outcome, but I haven’t seen that argument being made.
At the end of the day, LSU fans see it as targeting…
Alabana fans don’t see it as targeting.
Why? Bc it’s their guy they are defending.
If this was reversed, both sides wld be arguing the others point.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:05 pm to RollTide1987
Just for arguments sake - are you asking if teams in the lead should not be penalized because it “wouldn’t make a difference”?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:26 pm to RollTide1987
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What exactly are we arguing here? You can say the refs missed a call but its impact on the game would have been negligible if they had called it correctly. Daniels would have remained injured targeting or no targeting. I just don't see how it would have mattered.
It only matters that the program that wants to hoist itself on the pedestal of greatness teaches, encourages, and endorses dirty play. Alabama has a history of this in big games and honestly I cant think of another program in CFB that has that reputation. Can you?
The billionaire I used to work for said to us minions that even the appearance of impropriety is wrong.
Most importantly, failure to address the issue properly encourages others to follow that behavior.
Kiffin hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that the system is broken when players can illegally take out the QB and remain playing.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:28 pm to RollTide1987
It was on par with Devin White’s targeting against Bama a few years back.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:34 pm to RollTide1987
Don’t you have some team to start rooting for or something you gave up on Bama 2 years ago remember ? You said you was done with Bama football … please stop posting your an embarrassing fan .
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:59 am to RollTide1987
It's just a shame that the fans that make no excuses have to listen to LSU fans make excuses.
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:33 am to RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:38 pm to RollTide1987
It would have been done according to the rules. As much as Bama fans like it, we all suffer when the sellout SEC officials don't play according to the rules. Now the whole country is seeing that there isn't a level playing field in the SEC, and in the long run, that hurts Bama, too.
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