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Caleb Williams vs Jalen Milroe

Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26104 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:11 am
I am not saying Jalen is better than Caleb. However, I am saying the last three weeks...

Caleb Williams - 125.5 Passer Rating
Jalen Milroe - 173.3 Passer Rating




My biggest gripe has always been Jalen's ability to process and make the right reads. I still think he has those issues but he is progressing. I also think the coaches continue to reinforce being safe with the football which is affecting his ability to process as he is being safe.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83217 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:21 am to
Jalen can be a very efficient QB if Rees puts him (and everyone else around him) in situations where he can manage the play.

Call more designed runs, create confusion for the defense with pre-snap motion, run routes allowing Milroe to get the ball out faster, etc.
Posted by Doug Heffernan
Member since Aug 2017
748 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:32 am to
Agreed the play with Niblack out in front blocking should be used at least 3-5 times a game. We ran it with Hurts continuously.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29639 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:59 am to
Milroe with Kiffin or Sark would be in the Heisman conversation.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26104 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Jalen can be a very efficient QB if Rees puts him (and everyone else around him) in situations where he can manage the play.


This is also based on Jalen's mental acuity.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2394 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:50 am to
Williams will be an NFL bust. Dude’s mind is only on money.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26104 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:34 pm to
Based on Leadership/Personality. I'd much rather have Jalen than Caleb.

Caleb is a tool and a half. It makes it easier for people to root for his failure.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3302 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:33 pm to
Jalen isn’t being asked to remotely anything similar to what Caleb is doing. Milroe might average 18-20 throws a game and 2-3 designed runs, Caleb is doing double that. I wouldn’t compare Milroe to Caleb, Penix, or any QB that the offense relies on for its whole production.

If we had Caleb playing like his current state we would be winning games by larger margins because of the defense.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Jalen can be a very efficient QB if Rees puts him (and everyone else around him) in situations where he can manage the play.

Call more designed runs, create confusion for the defense with pre-snap motion, run routes allowing Milroe to get the ball out faster, etc.


Very well said
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1571 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:44 am to
Williams is a mental cancer on that team. Amazing ability but horrible attitude. Only seems to care about himself. I was watching them play Utah last Saturday night and late in the game, USC scores to take the lead and Utah gets the ball back with under two minutes to go.

The USC crowd is going nuts, his team mates on the sidelines are all yelling and what is Williams doing? The dude is sitting on the bench just kind of looking around and not really paying attention to the game. WTH?!?!?!

He just oozes "bad attitude". I may be wrong but he may end up like Cam Newton's NFL career. Lots of skill and a few good years but a bad attitude derails his NFL career.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19554 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:54 am to
People get mad if you show passion and get mad if you don't.

In the end this is why most players just do them.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26104 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:22 am to
quote:

People get mad if you show passion and get mad if you don't.


In this case, I can understand why Caleb Williams rubs people the wrong way.


- He was demanding a minority stake in the NFL team that drafts him.
- Trying to dictate who drafts him.
- Paints his fingernails saying frick the other team.
- Has public arguments/ belittles fans.

It is what it is.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46087 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:40 am to
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He was demanding a minority stake in the NFL team that drafts him.


This isn't actually something that can be done anyway because of the salary cap ramifications. Otherwise Mahomes would just be paid vet minimum but have an ownership stake in the Chiefs that covers his actual value.

I think Williams is likely to bomb his interviews when the draft rolls around though. He doesn't seem like someone who loves football so much as he enjoys the attention and money he gets from being good at it. You can be totally unemotional on the sidelines while still being intensely invested in the game. See Hurts, Jalen.
He'll still go #1 overall though because Bears.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 9:42 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Milroe with Kiffin or Sark would be in the Heisman conversation.



Kiffin would definitely have Milroe doing dirty things. Not sure he'd fit real well with Sark.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12923 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Jalen can be a very efficient QB if Rees puts him (and everyone else around him) in situations where he can manage the play.


I agree with this and I mentioned yesterday in the 2nd half it looked as we called more plays that were designed to get out of his hands quicker. Jalen just does not do well when required to hold onto the ball as he has no pocket awareness and seems to over think what to do.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12923 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:03 am to
quote:

This isn't actually something that can be done anyway because of the salary cap ramifications.


Actually in July the owners voted to ban this. So apparently it was a possibility if a vote was needed.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26146 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:11 am to
quote:

He just oozes "bad attitude".


Funny thing is, it didn’t always seem that way. He played in OUs bowl against Oregon when everyone and their mother knew he was gonna transfer to SC. He was the Game MVP. Thought that showed a lot of character
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26146 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:19 am to
quote:

- Paints his fingernails saying frick the other team


“frick Utah” no less. The squad that is, culture wise, the antithesis to Riley’s USC and has punked their asses 3 times in a row
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8737 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:22 am to
Caleb Williams is the most unlikeable player since Stetson Bennett.

I wouldn't give that guy an equity stake in a stadium bathroom urinal. Looked very average everytime I've seen him play a defense with a pulse.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26104 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:41 am to
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Jalen Milroe is currently the 9th most efficient passer in the country with a rating of 175.0.


Don’t look now.
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