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NFL wanting to ban the hip-drop tackle. Will NCAAF follow?

Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:28 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:28 pm
Stolen from MSB. Read Thread Here

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Apparently it is a technique that is taught to get larger, stronger runners than the tackler on the ground by pulling the runner's hips down with the tackler's weight, sometimes resulting in the tackler's body laying onto the runner's legs.


Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:31 pm to
Just go ahead and add the flag belts to the uniforms.

Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24198 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:34 pm to
I agreed on the horse collar rule, It’s a wonder McFadden had any knees left. It was painful to watch.I


I could see the hip-drop causing injury but when your tackling someone in the moment up close it can be unintentional. That’s tackling.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56012 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:35 pm to
I'm still trying to figure out why jumpimg over offensive linemen to block a kick is illegal but two guys running full blast at each other, the one with the ball can jump over the one trying to tackle him is okay.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32473 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:44 pm to
Football is inherently a dangerous sport. The athletes know it when they start playing at a young age.

And to say this technique is "taught" is complete horse shite. Just because you give it some stupid arse name akin to "horse collar" doesn't mean it's a well known take down technique in the octagon.

Shut down pulling guards

Take off the pads

Put on the flags and red jerseys.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
84958 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:46 pm to
I’m trying to figure out why blind side hits are illegal as it never used to be and makes football more elite of a contact sport.

Inb4thewhiners
Posted by tndawg
Nashville Tn
Member since Nov 2014
607 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Just go ahead and add the flag belts to the uniforms.

Still require pads and helmets because you can never be too safe.
Posted by five_fivesix
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Member since Aug 2012
14111 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:02 pm to
I’m generally a Neanderthal when it come to football. Still think facemasks are for pussies. But that tackle makes me cringe, even when it’s my team making it. Wouldn’t mind it disappearing from the game, tbh.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13234 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

I’m trying to figure out why blind side hits are illegal as it never used to be and makes football more elite of a contact sport.

Inb4thewhiners


But weirdly still not a flag to do it to a QB.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
2065 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

I’m trying to figure out why blind side hits are illegal


There’s no playmaking difference between taking out some of the guy’s brain cells and just getting in his way to allow your runner to go past. Seems like a pretty reasonable rule change.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32473 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

There’s no playmaking difference between taking out some of the guy’s brain cells

Sure there is. Sometimes it's necessary to make the play happen.

And this is a shitty subjective penalty.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58572 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:43 pm to
So...what's supposed to be a legal tackle?
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:53 pm to
You misspelled horse shite
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1625 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I'm still trying to figure out why jumpimg over offensive linemen to block a kick is illegal but two guys running full blast at each other, the one with the ball can jump over the one trying to tackle him is okay.



I'm still trying to figure out how using someone's shoulder pads (without reaching inside their collar) to make a tackle is too dangerous, but clotheslining them across the throat is okay.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5421 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:58 pm to
fricking pathetic just turn it into flag football
Posted by Levelparclub
Member since Dec 2021
35 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:17 pm to
I would like to know why the running back can lower the crown of his helmet into a defenders head but the defense gets ejected when they do the same thing.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Member since Nov 2012
22624 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:19 pm to
How about both NFL and college get away from fake grass first.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
57077 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:24 pm to
At the end of the day the powers that be have to come to the conclusion that it’s a rough arse sport and you get hurt playing it.

Period.

The inherent nature of the sport is dangerous and you can hurt yourself playing it.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15190 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:34 pm to
Isn’t this more rugby-style tackling or the “Hawk Tackle” technique that’s designed to get the head behind the point of contact?

You go tackler’s outside shoulder to ball carrier’s near hip and roll.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40983 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:45 pm to
Honestly, having played the game well into my 20s at a high level, the hip drop tackle should have been banned two decades ago, well after my time ... especially in the trenches.

Also, I'm of the belief that targeting the knees should be banned as well.

I was a 6'3" 220 pound linebacker ... we didn't hip tackle in those days. It wasn't taught, it wasn't acceptable.

These days there are are safeties my size running 4.5s ... it's insane. Human knees are not built to take those shots, especially literally.

It's time to change some things before the game is completely destroyed by catastrophic lower body injuries.

(ETA: Tempted to downvote? Read the entire thread.)
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:10 pm
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