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Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:59 am to
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:59 am to
When it comes to NIL, I'm in favor of it in general, but I don't like the concept of buying recruits.

I'm hoping that at some point we can reach a system where any money promised to a player is guaranteed... even if they decide to attend a different school.

Regardless of how NIL is being used, the INTENT was for it to allow businesses to pay players to use their name image and likeness in advertising. A business actually doing that wouldn't care that much of Caleb Williams were at Oklahoma or USC... his NIL has value to them because he's Caleb Williams.

Few HS players have value in that regard before they get to college. Maybe someone like Arch Manning, but not most guys. When they get deals, it's about paying them to come to your school, and NIL was never intended to do that. So if it could be set up so that if UF boosters makes a promise for 2 million dollars to a player... they're stuck paying that even if he goes to another school. If that can be made to happen, then I don't think paying for HS players will happen because there's no insurance he'll come to your school if you pay him.
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:40 am to
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Regardless of how NIL is being used, the INTENT was for it to allow businesses to pay players to use their name image and likeness in advertising. A business actually doing that wouldn't care that much of Caleb Williams were at Oklahoma or USC... his NIL has value to them because he's Caleb Williams.


You are thinking about this in terms of NATIONAL brands. Many (maybe most) NIL deals are being funded by local and regional businesses. If Luther Burden chose Georgia over Missouri his endorsement of a say, St. Louis grocery chain would be a NEGATIVE for that chain as boosters would be chapped he spurned his home state.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30319 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:14 am to
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Regardless of how NIL is being used, the INTENT was for it to allow businesses to pay players to use their name image and likeness in advertising. A business actually doing that wouldn't care that much of Caleb Williams were at Oklahoma or USC... his NIL has value to them because he's Caleb Williams.
How many corporate/national businesses fund UGA's NIL collective?

Sure, corporations who choose to pay individuals for their NIL may not care where the athlete plays ball. But NIL collectives are funded by a school's booster/donors and they pay into the collective to help their school of choice.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:49 am to
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Regardless of how NIL is being used, the INTENT was for it to allow businesses to pay players to use their name image and likeness in advertising. A business actually doing that wouldn't care that much of Caleb Williams were at Oklahoma or USC... his NIL has value to them because he's Caleb Williams.


That’s just not true for the overwhelming majority of NIL deals. The local chicken finger chain or tire store absolutely cares what school the player attends if they are paying them NIL money - even if the owner of those businesses are fans and want to induce the player to attend their school (which is against the rules on its face).

It’s a bit silly to act like outliers like C. Williams are what NIL is all about. Most of these players (including other sports beyond football) are lucky to get a deal with local businesses.

If NIL is to be reined in, it’s the cooperatives that have to be regulated in some way, as they are just recruiting inducement providers. Easier said than done though.
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