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re: Many schools have been gypped out of national titles, but 1983 Auburn was one of the worst
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
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What? Alabama beat then #1 Penn State 14-7 in the Sugar Bowl in 1978
My bad. 1973 was the year.
Bama wins undeserved title in 1964 because it lost its bowl game… AP changes in 1965 to awarding its champ after the bowls.
Bama wins undeserved title in 1973 because it lost its bowl game… UPI changes in 1974 to awarding its champ after the bowls.
Then in 1978 Bama shared the title with USC despite the Trojans massacring the Tide at Legion Field.
Sure ‘66 and ‘77 Bama teams might have been deserving, but Bama has won 3 titles it really had no business winning. And that doesn’t include the 5 retroactive titles claimed 50 years after the fact.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 7:06 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:16 am to AUTiger789
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Then in 1978 Bama shared the title with USC despite the Trojans massacring the Tide at Legion Field.
a 10 point win isn't a massacre.
And that USC team lost to an average Arizona State team 20-7.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:27 am to AUTiger789
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Bama wins undeserved title in 1964 because it lost its bowl game… AP changes in 1965 to awarding its champ after the bowls.--Underserved? those were the rules of the time and Bama won it.
Bama wins undeserved title in 1973 because it lost its bowl game… UPI changes in 1974 to awarding its champ after the bowls.--Undeserved? those were rules of the time and Bama won it.
Then in 1978 Bama shared the title with USC despite the Trojans massacring the Tide at Legion Field.--The voters voted and Bama won it. Just because you don't like the format then doesn't mean anything.
Sure ‘66 and ‘77 Bama teams might have been deserving, but Bama has won 3 titles it really had no business winning
How quickly Aubie forgets in these 'shared titles" that in 1957 Aubie shared the title with Ohio St and Aubie didn't play in a bowl game because of probation. So I just know you're gonna say that was undeserved and Ohio St was the REAL national champ.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:33 pm to AUTiger789
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Sure ‘66 and ‘77 Bama teams might have been deserving, but Bama has won 3 titles it really had no business winning. And that doesn’t include the 5 retroactive titles claimed 50 years after the fact
Other than 1941, four of those so called retroactively awarded titles were before the AP poll existed and awarded a national title trophy. 1925, 1926, 1930 , and 1934 were all undefeated teams that were named national champions in one of more of the ranking services at the time. It wasn't as if those claims weren't at least backed up by actual #1 rankings in one of more of the ranking systems that existed at the time.
If we're going to pretend that any pre-AP poll title claim is questionable unless every single polling service names the same team #1 then every title by every team prior to 1936 is illegitimate by that standard.
If that's the case then I guess AP titles are the only ones that count and there's a clear Big 3 when it comes to those...
1) Alabama - 12
2) Notre Dame- 8
3) Oklahoma- 7
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