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When Dorsey tried to hurt Ramsey
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:13 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:13 am
Obvious that Chaz slipped on those goat field conditions. No reason for Dorsey to fall on him like that.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:15 am to TideHater
Lol. Still hate that piece of shite for that.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:15 am to TideHater
Dirty play, cost Dorsey all his explosiveness, NO BIG DEAL haha.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:16 am to TideHater
I'll piss on Ramsay's grave when he dies.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:16 am to Champs
Tiger Stadium needs better sod installed. Its a wonder that Ramsey wasnt hurt seriously. 
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:25 am to TideHater
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:27 am to TideHater
Dude that’s bench clearing dirty. I’d have lost it if that happened to a teammate of mine.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:31 am to Champs
quote:Hell, we hate that piece of shite for betraying Pat Dye and taking money from bama to do it
Lol. Still hate that piece of shite for that.
eta: wait that was his brother Eric. Chaz Ramzey is also pos. Tried to sue his trainer at Auburn among other shite. Their whole family is trash
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:35 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:33 am to TideHater
Sunday, the two freshmen and offensive line coach Hugh Nall were all made unavailable to the media. But Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville spoke out about the block.
"I'd like to say this about the chop block: those things happen. We do not teach it. We'll not teach it. We won't tolerate it," Tuberville said. "We want the officials to call those. That should have been a 15-yard penalty.
"Glenn Dorsey's a great player - very athletic, one of the best players I've seen in the last 10 or 15 years in my time as a defensive lineman.
"It was a zone play. One guy blocks the inside shoulder and the other blocks the outside shoulder. Ramsey checks the linebacker coming through first, so he steps. No linebacker was there to block. What happened was the linebacker went the other way and Lee just stayed on the guy for some reason."
Tuberville said the fact that two freshmen were attempting to block an all-American should be taken into consideration.
"It was two freshmen and they were trying like the dickens to block him," he said. "There wasn't any malice in that. Obviously we blocked him above the waist
and blocked him below the waist, but we've talked to the people involved and there's no malice at all in intentionally trying to hurt anybody or anything. We were just trying to block."
And actually, Ramsey, who has taken the biggest PR hit, wasn't at fault.
The play was supposed to have the linemen chop block and Ziemba was supposed to get to the next level.
However, Ziemba stuck on the block.
"It really wasn't Chaz's fault anyway," Auburn center Jason Bosley said. "We were supposed to be cutting on the play. In the heat of the battle in football, things happen that are out of your control."
"I don't know what's going on inside the helmets of those two players," Miles said to The Times-Picayune. "But Tommy Tuberville assured me (Monday) the people responsible - those players - were sick about it. It may have been an intentional block by those two players, but he told me it was not coordinated or rehearsed - and certainly not coached."
In The Advocate, Baton Rouge's city newspaper, Miles said that as a former offensive lineman, he could see how the block could have been an accident.
"I'd like to say this about the chop block: those things happen. We do not teach it. We'll not teach it. We won't tolerate it," Tuberville said. "We want the officials to call those. That should have been a 15-yard penalty.
"Glenn Dorsey's a great player - very athletic, one of the best players I've seen in the last 10 or 15 years in my time as a defensive lineman.
"It was a zone play. One guy blocks the inside shoulder and the other blocks the outside shoulder. Ramsey checks the linebacker coming through first, so he steps. No linebacker was there to block. What happened was the linebacker went the other way and Lee just stayed on the guy for some reason."
Tuberville said the fact that two freshmen were attempting to block an all-American should be taken into consideration.
"It was two freshmen and they were trying like the dickens to block him," he said. "There wasn't any malice in that. Obviously we blocked him above the waist
and blocked him below the waist, but we've talked to the people involved and there's no malice at all in intentionally trying to hurt anybody or anything. We were just trying to block."
And actually, Ramsey, who has taken the biggest PR hit, wasn't at fault.
The play was supposed to have the linemen chop block and Ziemba was supposed to get to the next level.
However, Ziemba stuck on the block.
"It really wasn't Chaz's fault anyway," Auburn center Jason Bosley said. "We were supposed to be cutting on the play. In the heat of the battle in football, things happen that are out of your control."
"I don't know what's going on inside the helmets of those two players," Miles said to The Times-Picayune. "But Tommy Tuberville assured me (Monday) the people responsible - those players - were sick about it. It may have been an intentional block by those two players, but he told me it was not coordinated or rehearsed - and certainly not coached."
In The Advocate, Baton Rouge's city newspaper, Miles said that as a former offensive lineman, he could see how the block could have been an accident.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:40 am to BigTastey
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"I'd like to say this about the chop block: those things happen. We do not teach it. We'll not teach it. We won't tolerate it," Tuberville said. "We want the officials to call those. That should have been a 15-yard penalty.
"Glenn Dorsey's a great player - very athletic, one of the best players I've seen in the last 10 or 15 years in my time as a defensive lineman.
Translation...
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:46 am to BigTastey
The kid was getting death threats one year after the incident. All driven by media. Perhaps all of you "know it alls" need to learn the complex game of football.
"It was a year ago that Chaz Ramsey, then a highly recruited offensive lineman at Madison (Miss.) Central High School, signed with Auburn. His father watched proudly. Chaz became the starting right guard in the fourth game of his freshman season.
But on Oct. 20 at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, Chaz and his family learned about another side of college football. Chaz and freshman tackle Lee Ziemba were to double-team All-America LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. What Nall says was a mistake in execution resulted in an illegal chop block. Dorsey limped off the field. ESPN commentators were quick with their criticism and talked about the play frequently throughout the remainder of the game.
As the season wore on, the play was called "dirty," "nasty", "vicious," and other names, particularly the night of the BCS Championship Game between LSU and Ohio State. Earlier this month, ESPN.com columnist Bruce Feldman called Ramsey out by name and listed the block No. 5 on his top 10 disappointments of the 2007 season.
And Keith Ramsey fumed. He heard his son's life threatened by anonymous callers. He saw threatening and vulgar messages, even on the Facebook page of his 15-year-old son, Chandler.
"It's been a nightmare," Keith says. "We adults realize there is a lot of ignorance out there. Fifteen-year-olds have a hard time understanding that. Chandler is the one that's taken it the most. It's been at school, on Facebook, all over the place.
"Chaz had a Facebook page and had to shut it down. People were sending pictures with awful things on them, Chaz' face with awful things on it, unbelievable stuff."
The blocking scheme the play, Nall says, called for both Ramsey and Ziemba to "cut" Dorsey, meaning block him low, a legal and widely used scheme. But Ziemba made a mistake. He went high and Ramsey, as he was supposed to do, went low.
Keith Ramsey knew before he left Tiger Stadium that night that it was going to be bad. Chandler was focused on the play through binoculars, saw it happen and told his father. Almost immediately, Keith Ramsey's cell phone started ringing.
"My phone started going crazy," Keith says. "People were telling me ESPN was just bashing Chaz and wouldn't leave it alone. I thought then 'When I get home, this is going to be pretty ugly.'"
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville defended Chaz and Ziemba after the game, saying it was unintentional. Nall said it was mistake in execution, not an intent to injure Dorsey. LSU coach Les Miles and Dorsey said they accepted that. Everyone agreed it should have resulted in a 15-yard penalty.
But Keith Ramsey was right. Things got ugly. As the criticism mounted in television, on the Internet and in print, Keith made his unhappiness known. He says he has pleaded with ESPN to stop the criticism of his son. He says he's heard nothing in response.
"I've emailed ESPN probably 12 times," Keith says. "The last time, I had talked to a lawyer. I told them to cease, and if they chose not to, I'd do whatever I needed to do. When they use words like cheap, malicious and dirty, that shows intent. Well, there wasn't any intent. If it doesn't stop, absolutely I'll do something. If they knew Hugh Nall or knew Tommy Tuberville, they'd know better."
Before the BCS championship game, Keith Ramsey says he notified ESPN to "leave it alone." His pleas fell on deaf ears.
"(Kirk) Herbstreit and Lou Holtz kind of mentioned it and moved on," Keith says. "Reece Davis and Chris Fowler got on it again. Fowler, for some reason, just won't leave it alone. Then Feldman comes out with his deal.
"The ones that have played or coached understand, and they have quit talking about it. It's the ones who have never been on the field who keep it going."
For Nall, the frustration has mounted. He pops the DVD in his office computer to make his point. He shows play after play when the double-team "cut" block was executed properly, and the one when it wasn't. The uproar, Nall says, has been surprising even for one who has been around college football for more than a quarter of a century as a player and coach.
"Yeah, it really has," Nall says. "You would have thought they would have done some investigation and tried to find out what really happened. I've been doing this 23 years, and I've never coached anything illegal and I'm not going to. I have three kids of my own. I know how I feel about my own players and my own kids. I don't want to see any kid get hurt."
"It was a year ago that Chaz Ramsey, then a highly recruited offensive lineman at Madison (Miss.) Central High School, signed with Auburn. His father watched proudly. Chaz became the starting right guard in the fourth game of his freshman season.
But on Oct. 20 at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, Chaz and his family learned about another side of college football. Chaz and freshman tackle Lee Ziemba were to double-team All-America LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. What Nall says was a mistake in execution resulted in an illegal chop block. Dorsey limped off the field. ESPN commentators were quick with their criticism and talked about the play frequently throughout the remainder of the game.
As the season wore on, the play was called "dirty," "nasty", "vicious," and other names, particularly the night of the BCS Championship Game between LSU and Ohio State. Earlier this month, ESPN.com columnist Bruce Feldman called Ramsey out by name and listed the block No. 5 on his top 10 disappointments of the 2007 season.
And Keith Ramsey fumed. He heard his son's life threatened by anonymous callers. He saw threatening and vulgar messages, even on the Facebook page of his 15-year-old son, Chandler.
"It's been a nightmare," Keith says. "We adults realize there is a lot of ignorance out there. Fifteen-year-olds have a hard time understanding that. Chandler is the one that's taken it the most. It's been at school, on Facebook, all over the place.
"Chaz had a Facebook page and had to shut it down. People were sending pictures with awful things on them, Chaz' face with awful things on it, unbelievable stuff."
The blocking scheme the play, Nall says, called for both Ramsey and Ziemba to "cut" Dorsey, meaning block him low, a legal and widely used scheme. But Ziemba made a mistake. He went high and Ramsey, as he was supposed to do, went low.
Keith Ramsey knew before he left Tiger Stadium that night that it was going to be bad. Chandler was focused on the play through binoculars, saw it happen and told his father. Almost immediately, Keith Ramsey's cell phone started ringing.
"My phone started going crazy," Keith says. "People were telling me ESPN was just bashing Chaz and wouldn't leave it alone. I thought then 'When I get home, this is going to be pretty ugly.'"
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville defended Chaz and Ziemba after the game, saying it was unintentional. Nall said it was mistake in execution, not an intent to injure Dorsey. LSU coach Les Miles and Dorsey said they accepted that. Everyone agreed it should have resulted in a 15-yard penalty.
But Keith Ramsey was right. Things got ugly. As the criticism mounted in television, on the Internet and in print, Keith made his unhappiness known. He says he has pleaded with ESPN to stop the criticism of his son. He says he's heard nothing in response.
"I've emailed ESPN probably 12 times," Keith says. "The last time, I had talked to a lawyer. I told them to cease, and if they chose not to, I'd do whatever I needed to do. When they use words like cheap, malicious and dirty, that shows intent. Well, there wasn't any intent. If it doesn't stop, absolutely I'll do something. If they knew Hugh Nall or knew Tommy Tuberville, they'd know better."
Before the BCS championship game, Keith Ramsey says he notified ESPN to "leave it alone." His pleas fell on deaf ears.
"(Kirk) Herbstreit and Lou Holtz kind of mentioned it and moved on," Keith says. "Reece Davis and Chris Fowler got on it again. Fowler, for some reason, just won't leave it alone. Then Feldman comes out with his deal.
"The ones that have played or coached understand, and they have quit talking about it. It's the ones who have never been on the field who keep it going."
For Nall, the frustration has mounted. He pops the DVD in his office computer to make his point. He shows play after play when the double-team "cut" block was executed properly, and the one when it wasn't. The uproar, Nall says, has been surprising even for one who has been around college football for more than a quarter of a century as a player and coach.
"Yeah, it really has," Nall says. "You would have thought they would have done some investigation and tried to find out what really happened. I've been doing this 23 years, and I've never coached anything illegal and I'm not going to. I have three kids of my own. I know how I feel about my own players and my own kids. I don't want to see any kid get hurt."
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:49 am to BevoBucks
Learn the game!
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:52 am to TideHater
So AU has a pattern of having dirty players and fans celebrating it. I just assumed it was only against UGA.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:54 am to TigerLunatik
Offensive pass interference??? LSU WR jumping on Gilbert
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:55 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:55 am to Porter Osborne Jr
You might want to sit this thread out. That pos Ben Jones chop blocked Fairley several times in 1 game. Then when that couldn’t stop him, Jones starts punching him like a true thUGA player.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:56 am to BigTastey
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BigTastey
Spare me with the "you don't know the game" bullshite
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:58 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:57 am to lowhound
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lowhound
:lol:Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:58 am to jvilletiger25
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That pos Ben Jones chop blocked Fairley several times in 1 game.
And why was he chop blocking Fairley? In retaliation for the shite your fan favorite POS was doing. Don't start shite, won't be shite.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:08 am to jvilletiger25
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That pos Ben Jones chop blocked Fairley
Fairley deserved it though.
As dirty a player as Suh.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:11 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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