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Why I, as a populist, changed my mind on the Ukraine.

Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by joydivision
Member since Nov 2008
179 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:45 pm
I have Ukraine flag fatigue. The flag is about as repulsive to me as the masks, but I understand our need to be there, and it’s not for the Ukrainian’s. At least not primarily. Otherwise, why not help Yemen?

We need this war to deplete the Russian military while sharpening our saw (weapons). The result will be a less robust Russian-Chinese alliance. You think it’s bad now? Imagine getting knocked to second place. The global village is a Godforsaken Jungle where might makes right.

I’d have so much more respect if Desantis, Trump, or Vivek would say the quiet part out loud stop pissing down our legs and telling us it’s raining.

It’s not a gentleman’s game. If we don’t keep our alpha status, we will feel it in our pocket book, safety, etc.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53752 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:47 pm to
Go frick yourself, neocon boot licker.
This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 6:50 am
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5049 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:50 pm to
You go fight on their front lines then.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:50 pm to
You should go over there and fight for your principles.

Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:51 pm to
Problem is, we are sending old shite. We aren’t testing anything worth a damn.

I almost bought in to that narrative as well. That’s the new gimmick to keep us in line.

We are going to find out how good our advanced tech is with Taiwan.

And we aren’t depleting anything but Soviet era tanks helicopters and planes. Bc that’s all they are using. On purpose.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15887 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:52 pm to
This war is not depleting the Russian military. When Ukraine falls, the Russians will have the weapons that Brandon sent.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15804 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:53 pm to
We shouldn’t have a dog in this fight unless Congress declares war. There’s a reason the constitution requires the legislature to do it, because it’s a big deal.

You’re right. It’s not a gentleman’s game. Right now it’s a conman’s game, and too many people are falling for it.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30287 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:56 pm to
I’m supporting you on one specific point, and it doesn’t even get into the substance of the matter.

I applaud your willingness to change your mind and the willingness to be open and unapologetic about it. That’s the sign of a mature critical thinker. Hear hear.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14146 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Why I, as a populist, changed my mind on the Ukraine.

I did too once I fully understood the matter. We tried to frame it as a battle of ideas (De-Nazification, corruption, biolabs, etc.). This war is nothing more than a battle of geography and strategic blocking positions. Unfortunately, two of those blocking positions are in the yards of our allies (Poland and Romania). I give precisely zero fricks about that corrupt shithole Ukraine. I just don't want us in a shooting war with Russia over NATO allies. If we can stop the Russian advance with some donated tanks and Ukrainian bodies, I'm fine with that.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3706 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:00 pm to
I always wondered what do we gain by depleting the Russian military.

I always wondered what do we gain by being in Afghanistan.

I always wondered what do we gain by beating the shite out of the Iraqi military.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71822 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

have Ukraine flag fatigue


The blue stands for the sky and the gold stands for wheat.

No more wheat and smoldering skies.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19679 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:32 pm to
I hope your were paid more than 50 cents for your shite post.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45402 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

We need this war to deplete the Russian military while sharpening our saw (weapons). The result will be a less robust Russian-Chinese alliance.


Yeah go frick yourself you neocon prick. You’re no populist.

It’s this stupid Ukraine policy that’s driving the Russia China alliance in the first place.

We’re wasting money and people’s lives, making the world a more dangerous place, and doing massive long term damage to ourselves.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71822 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:51 pm to
OPs post count and join date

quote:

Number of Posts: 171
Registered on: 11/22/2008
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4202 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:12 am to
This is a war that WE created.

We wanted this. If that causes you hurt, then you're probably still a functional human being. Because this shite was not inevitable. It was chosen by us, for them.

We're the bad guys here.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29198 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:14 am to
frick Ukraine. The war is only depleting OUR military. We would be fricked right now if we had to actually go into a real war.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13470 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:24 am to
quote:

We need this war to deplete the Russian military
Why do we need to do this?
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:59 am to
Well we could have tried being friendly with Russia. shite they offered us airspace after 911 but dumbfrick W decided to ignore the olive branch and put missiles in Poland (not sure which country). Everything was quiet and fine up until the DNC leak and Russia Russia Russia from Hillary.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4202 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 1:00 am to
That's a paid troll.

Start noticing this shite people
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23925 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 1:16 am to
pick up a rifle and get your arse then. but don’t expect your brothers and sisters to follow
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